@ekendrick: Have I missed somthing here m8 ? Why the split? Sorry: I know it's probably buried in the main thread in Announcements but I aint got the bandwidth to search before I have to get back to workekendrick wrote: Maybe Blackcat networks will be willing to ignore the bandwidth for one more month as a goodwill gesture, given that the main llamasoft-the-company site will remain with them???
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Llook no further:KevG wrote:@ekendrick: Have I missed somthing here m8 ? Why the split? Sorry: I know it's probably buried in the main thread in Announcements but I aint got the bandwidth to search before I have to get back to workekendrick wrote: Maybe Blackcat networks will be willing to ignore the bandwidth for one more month as a goodwill gesture, given that the main llamasoft-the-company site will remain with them???![]()
I thought the idea was we were chipping in for the whole site.
http://smokey.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/~l ... 495#102495
They're moaning about the forum baa-ndwidth, not the main site, so I think the llamasoft.co.uk site's gonna stay but the forum's gonna be moo-ving.
Eggsaxe-ely 
Pledged total is now £605 pounds. Thank you!
On the "split" - For all intensive reasons it is still going to be one big site, but for financial and legal reasons splitting the forum is a good idea. It means Jeff is neither legally of financially liable for the content or bandwidth of the site, so he can just enjoy it.
Anyway. Must go (off to a concert QEII)
Pledged total is now £605 pounds. Thank you!
On the "split" - For all intensive reasons it is still going to be one big site, but for financial and legal reasons splitting the forum is a good idea. It means Jeff is neither legally of financially liable for the content or bandwidth of the site, so he can just enjoy it.
Anyway. Must go (off to a concert QEII)
QEII were fantastic, as usual 
Ok - I didn't put much thought into my previous posting, so I thought I best clarify before I find I upset someone...
Everybody's donations are going to save the llamasoft forum. Basically the forum is one big bandwidth hog, and while it is part of llamasoft site it has the power of shutting down the whole site unless Jeff either (A) Personally pays large chunks of cash, or (B) shuts down the forums. These aren't pleasant choices for him to make, so we are offering to pre-emptively select choice (C) whereby we move the forum elsewhere and we pay the large chunks of cash.
Consider it this way. Jeff held a little party and provided free beer. But instead of 30 people showing up he found himself with 300 - but as they are all well behaved it was a great party, and nobody wants it to stop. But we're costing Jeff a lot of beer, and trampling over his garden. But he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy who runs round shouting "mind my bleedin' flowers" and grumbling about going to the off-license every 30 minutes. But as considerate guests *we* should, and we're proposing that we move the party into a big field next door to Jeff's house, and asking everyone to bring their own beer. We're not demanding that Jeff move home. Yes, Jeff ends up being a guest at his own party - but honestly don't you think he'll enjoy it more that way. At the same time he is still a host - as it will be collectively hosted by all of us.
At least it has come to a crunch now - when Unity is released the forums would cause such a leap in bandwidth that blackcat wouldn't threaten, they'd starkly say pay huge wads of cash TODAY or we have to shutdown the llamasoft.co.uk site RIGHT NOW.
Ok - I didn't put much thought into my previous posting, so I thought I best clarify before I find I upset someone...
Everybody's donations are going to save the llamasoft forum. Basically the forum is one big bandwidth hog, and while it is part of llamasoft site it has the power of shutting down the whole site unless Jeff either (A) Personally pays large chunks of cash, or (B) shuts down the forums. These aren't pleasant choices for him to make, so we are offering to pre-emptively select choice (C) whereby we move the forum elsewhere and we pay the large chunks of cash.
Consider it this way. Jeff held a little party and provided free beer. But instead of 30 people showing up he found himself with 300 - but as they are all well behaved it was a great party, and nobody wants it to stop. But we're costing Jeff a lot of beer, and trampling over his garden. But he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy who runs round shouting "mind my bleedin' flowers" and grumbling about going to the off-license every 30 minutes. But as considerate guests *we* should, and we're proposing that we move the party into a big field next door to Jeff's house, and asking everyone to bring their own beer. We're not demanding that Jeff move home. Yes, Jeff ends up being a guest at his own party - but honestly don't you think he'll enjoy it more that way. At the same time he is still a host - as it will be collectively hosted by all of us.
At least it has come to a crunch now - when Unity is released the forums would cause such a leap in bandwidth that blackcat wouldn't threaten, they'd starkly say pay huge wads of cash TODAY or we have to shutdown the llamasoft.co.uk site RIGHT NOW.
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I think this text should be on the Fund Pledge 'homepage' and the thread in the web site forum, as it explains to any new members what it's all abaht.ekendrick wrote:Everybody's donations are going to save the llamasoft forum. Basically the forum is one big bandwidth hog, and while it is part of llamasoft site it has the power of shutting down the whole site unless Jeff either (A) Personally pays large chunks of cash, or (B) shuts down the forums. These aren't pleasant choices for him to make, so we are offering to pre-emptively select choice (C) whereby we move the forum elsewhere and we pay the large chunks of cash.
Consider it this way. Jeff held a little party and provided free beer. But instead of 30 people showing up he found himself with 300 - but as they are all well behaved it was a great party, and nobody wants it to stop. But we're costing Jeff a lot of beer, and trampling over his garden. But he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy who runs round shouting "mind my bleedin' flowers" and grumbling about going to the off-license every 30 minutes. But as considerate guests *we* should, and we're proposing that we move the party into a big field next door to Jeff's house, and asking everyone to bring their own beer. We're not demanding that Jeff move home. Yes, Jeff ends up being a guest at his own party - but honestly don't you think he'll enjoy it more that way. At the same time he is still a host - as it will be collectively hosted by all of us.
Oh, and you might wanna put the URL to the Fund page in your sig EK.
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Dave wrote:Also, have the "mind my bleedin' flowers" sound bite playing in the background as well!
Who's setting up the PayPal account and when will it be ready?!?!?
Elizian, earlier in this thread, wrote:I already have a PayPal account - once again, details will be PM'd on request - which is free to use, except for Foreign Exchange overheads and a 50p charge to withdraw funds into the Bank account.
Good idea. Done & Done. Basically I was mortified when I realised that I wasn't clear about what the money was for, with the possibility of people feeling their trust and generosity was abused. I'd hate for that to happen, so... All updated.PVB wrote:I think this text should be on the Fund Pledge 'homepage' and the thread in the web site forum, as it explains to any new members what it's all abaht.![]()
Oh, and you might wanna put the URL to the Fund page in your sig EK.




