The Dr Who thread

[amanset]

I just looked that up in a Swedish dictionary and it doesn't exist. Don't make me get the grammar nazis in here.

Let me get all Grammar Nazi on your ass

http://lexin.nada.kth.se/Lexin/?dict=sv ... rd=djävel

"djävel el. jävel" means "djävel or jävel". Basically the "d" is silent (ish) and so without the "d" is a variant.

[Dio]

Am I the only one who misses the depth and richness that having a whole season devoted to a single story?

I'm not missing it a bit. The two stand-out best episodes of the last one-and-a-bit series have been beautifully encapsulated stories. I don't want 10 hours of blah.

[Dio]

Perhaps if they dress him up a bit with Bi-ped suitable armour with dalek designs he would look considerably better?

'Ang on, he got out of the Dalek in the first place. No reason he can't get back in that I can see.

[Snakey]

As an organic base he is fine, if he wasnt supposed too be a Dalek, Id say its a great looking alien, in fact.

You didn't honestly want to laugh (or cry) when you first saw him?

But yeah, as someone else said (aaron, maybe?) a human/dalek hybrid is simply far inferior to a dalek. So it makes no sense at all. Even if it did, what is a dalek without the weaponry, the armour, the voice...

'Ang on, he got out of the Dalek in the first place. No reason he can't get back in that I can see.

Apart from the fact that'd make no bloody sense either, and he might as well have just stayed where he was to start with?

"The children of Skaro must walk again" - like they ever did in the first place.

[Darkflame]

Not at all.
Jokes aside a human IS a more flexible, dynamic and more sexed-up creature
then a floating mental cylinder.
If the Dalek problem is numbers, I can see certainly a biped form being an advantage.
Doubly so with such a small gene pool they got at the moment

What a human lacks, however, is the shielding.
Our organic skin self-repairs, but isn't exactly damage resistant.

So why doesnt it make sense that a HD would wear armour of some sort too help compensate?
Sure, its a step back, but a sensible one.

Plus, more importantly, you could get some of the Dalek aesthetic back.

As you say, the weaponry, the armour, and the voice are part of what defines them.
I think it would be at least interesting too see a Biped interpretation of all 3 of those things.

You didn't honestly want to laugh (or cry) when you first saw him?

Honestly ? kinda yes.
I shed a tear inside.
But it was more for what it was supposed to be, rather then its actual design specifically.

I'm not missing it a bit. The two stand-out best episodes of the last one-and-a-bit series have been beautifully encapsulated stories. I don't want 10 hours of blah.

Thats basicaly saying "they clearly cant write long storys so they shouldnt attempt too"

[HGFB]

"The children of Skaro must walk again" - like they ever did in the first place.

Well they did. They weren't always little green blobs in bonded polycarbide armour.

The way I see it is Sec sees there aren't enough Daleks (he must have missed the masses of them hiding in various parts of the galaxy ready for series 4 ). Being a bit mad he comes up with a plan. Convert the entire human race into Dalek/Human hybrids. Considering they still fit in a standard Dalek casing what's to stop them then turning the manufacturing capacity of the human race over to making Dalek casings and warships with which to convert the Universe into one glorious Dalek hybrid ideal? You...will never stop us DOC-TOR.

From the discussion early on in the episode the other members of the Cult aren't too keen on the idea of getting jiggy with the squishy humans. Wasn't the Dalek Imperative all about maintaining the purity of the Dalek race? I wouldn't be surprised if they had something to say about it next week. Especially considering this is at heart a more physical retelling of Evil of the Daleks.

[Snakey]

Well they did. They weren't always little green blobs in bonded polycarbide armour.

Knew that was coming They were the result of genetic experiments originally, yeah, but were mostly 'grown' after that, no? "Born to hate" as the Doc put it.

Considering they still fit in a standard Dalek casing

Looked a bit bloody cramped, though. Not sure they'd actually be able to do much while in there.

[HGFB]

Considering they still fit in a standard Dalek casing

Looked a bit bloody cramped, though. Not sure they'd actually be able to do much while in there.

Well it's not like they're hosting dinner parties in there. The get hooked up to the control systems and start exterminating. If you look at it from the demented Sec's point of view it would seem to be an extremely quick way of beefing up Dalek numbers to the point where they can start rebuilding their infrastructure. It also looks like the pigmen were the results of the first experiments into this.

Of course from another Dalek's point of view the plan might not look so great...

Dalek Thay: You look like a mangina with legs. You will be ex-termin-ated.

[Dio]

I'm with HGFB on this one. The plan is to turn the whole human race into Human Daleks to give 'em the manpower to apply their advanced technology and build new Dalek suits, etc.

Hence the blob of material the Doctor found.

And also with what will actually happen; the Doctor won't kill the Human Dalek (he's shown himself reluctant to kill anything, even Daleks) - either the genetic combination will go horribly wrong or the other Daleks will. But I suppose we have to also allow for the Marvel ending where it doesn't quite die.

[Ollie]

I'm with HGFB on this one. The plan is to turn the whole human race into Human Daleks to give 'em the manpower to apply their advanced technology and build new Dalek suits, etc.

I didn't think the plan was to turn humans into Daleks. They've already done that, 2 series back. This time the plan seems to be to turn Daleks into Human-Dalek hybrids. Because humans survive so well and for some reason Sec thinks it's because of their body shape

[HGFB]

No. In series one they were chopping humans into tiny little pieces to find fragments that would be worthy of becoming glorious Dalek.

They were turning Humans into food back in the Colin Baker days if that helps But then that was Davros and we already knew he was mental.

[arron]

If you were going to create a hybrid dalek that is a born survivor and will probably outlast humankind once we're done being stupid after extinction..then why not use a spider as a base lifeform? They can cope with almost anything. Resource efficient, agile..and they spray a glutinous white substance that gets people stuck into their web of evil..which is an angle that RTD can do plenty with I feel!

Spider-daleks. You know it makes sense..but no-one seems to come up with genius ideas like that! It's like they're all blind or something..

[kalmar]

OOOH! WHITE WEE-WEEE!


((tm) The Gay Daleks. Sorry.)

And they've already done spider daleks as you well know :p

[Snakey]

If you were going to create a hybrid dalek that is a born survivor and will probably outlast humankind once we're done being stupid after extinction..then why not use a spider as a base lifeform? They can cope with almost anything. Resource efficient, agile..and they spray a glutinous white substance that gets people stuck into their web of evil..which is an angle that RTD can do plenty with I feel!

Spider-daleks. You know it makes sense..but no-one seems to come up with genius ideas like that! It's like they're all blind or something..

Piss off with your Spider-Daleks

As The Doc said - "They always survive." They already work

[Bog]

And also with what will actually happen; the Doctor won't kill the Human Dalek (he's shown himself reluctant to kill anything, even Daleks) - either the genetic combination will go horribly wrong or the other Daleks will. But I suppose we have to also allow for the Marvel ending where it doesn't quite die.

*orange*

*plummet*

*splat*

"No second chances. That's the sort of man I am".