The Dr Who thread

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:43 pm 0

It should have gone back a few hours and said "Look, zap the one-eyed tentacle weirdo. The Doctor is coming through that door in five minutes so zap him too". We could have had a fun time-shifting episode that leaves the universe in a nasty tangled knot.

Maybe they operate by the same temporal guidelines the Doc does?
Not to interfere with their own time stream, ect.

Less talking to your victims, just zap them and be done with it. Shoot first, scream "EXTERMINATE!" after.

Its a feable excuse to a universal bond-villian style problem, but I think they were trying to infer its also in the Dalek programing to explain themselfs.
Much like the Borg dont mind you wondering all over their ship.
A Dalek purhapes dosnt mind explaining themselfs because despite all logic, they still cant quite belief you are a threat.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:42 pm 0

You know if I was one of those Hooverville denizens who owned a gun I would have (depended on my level of ruthlessness) either traded in my gun for food or used the gun to rob some other cunt's food.

BTW: where was the police, where was the army and where was the airforce? New York was and is one of the busiest cities of the world. If they turned out in force for King Kong they would have turned out for the Daleks as well.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:58 pm 0

Well, obviously, this happened first.
After the Dalek, they then placed all the planes and army near the Empire State building ready for whatever came next.

Baggypants · Post by **Baggypants** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:24 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:Well, obviously, this happened first.
After the Dalek, they then placed all the planes and army near the Empire State building ready for whatever came next.

Bad luck to have got rid of them all by the time Michael Broderick showed up and obliterated the city with fish.

F-ZeroOne · Post by **F-ZeroOne** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:41 pm 0

There was no Air Force. It was part of the Army back then. Yes, thats pedantic.

Gorecki · Post by **Gorecki** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:01 am 0

HGFB wrote:
Dio wrote:RTD bloody started it again first.

All joking aside. Have a little paitence on this one. If what I've read is correct he's going somewhere a little different this time.

Just seen a clip of the next episode on BBC breakfast news and yes, it's definitely different to the last two series. No doubt the people who automatically assume that anything with a cockney accent must be Eastenders will still moan but for everybody else it looks interesting.

juice · Post by **juice** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:55 am 0

(dupe blanked out - stupid apparent timeouts!)

juice · Post by **juice** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:56 am 0

A bunch of friends and I watched Saturday's episode, and I don't think any of us were even vaguely impressed. Some unbelievable lines, some poor acting, ludicrous plot devices...

I think the episode officially jumped the shark when Mr Hybrid was dragged out in chains! Mind you, it's got a fair amount of competition - not least from the dalek-conversation held at the base of the ladder.

It's a shame, as the baseline plot had some potential - the idea of a human-dalek hybrid re-examining his perspective on the universe. More so if it could have been combined with the realisation that the domineering & bossy nature of the person absorbed could be seen as a flaw in their personality, rather than a positive attribute. It'd also have been nicer to see the Doctor doing a bit more agonising over the use of the "zombies" - the ethics of the whole thing were glossed over very quickly.

The BBC needs to pull it's trousers up quite sharply - compared to some of the other sci-fi out and about of late, Dr Who is coming short on pretty much everything. It may be pulling in the viewing numbers, but hey: how many burgers does McDonalds sell every second of every day? How many people sit back and remember the really amazing quarter-pounder with cheese they had?

Ok, so maybe I do, every now and then - usually after a loooong train journey, when I'm stuck in a train station and waiting for the next connection. Generally however, I'll be think about the glorious steak I had down in London that one time, with the amazing pepper sauce...

(Oh, and can someone please take the sonic screwdriver away from the script writers? It's rapidly getting to be a tiresome gimmick, rather than an intriguing bit of technology)

xav · Post by **xav** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:01 pm 0

juice wrote:Double post...

Temporal problem lads?

juice · Post by **juice** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:16 pm 0

xav wrote:
juice wrote:Double post...
Temporal problem lads?

Seems like it - reading yakyak is fine, but posting is taking so long I thought it'd timed out...

Can someone pass the sonic screwdriver over?

Post by **Snakey** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:19 pm 0

juice wrote:Mind you, it's got a fair amount of competition - not least from the dalek-conversation held at the base of the ladder.

I see we are in complete agreement.

I guess this is what happens when you let a woman write a Dalek episode

That was a joke before anyone gets offended

juice · Post by **juice** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:43 pm 0

Snakey wrote: I see we are in complete agreement.

I guess this is what happens when you let a woman write a Dalek episode

That was a joke before anyone gets offended

Danger, Will Robinson!

I think the issue is more with the attempt to target so many demographics - jack of all trades, master of none. The new format doesn't help too much either - the need to wrap things up neatly in 45 minutes (or 2*45) doesn't give you too much room for maneouvre.

However, it does feel like they've simply dumbed down the scripts by hacking and chopping and scribbling over stuff with a large red crayon, rather than attempting to craft them to slot nearly into place.

There also seems to be a tendancy towards plots involving "the doctor just so happens to be in the right place/time to save planet Earth from alien invasion - again", which is starting to get old, too. Can we get back to exploring the universe at some point, and getting involved with stuff which doesn't involve the end of the world?

At some point, I'll have to sit down and watch some old-era Dr Who to make sure it's not just rose-tinted glasses, but the stuff I have watched of late (the five doctors, genesis of the daleks) have been generally much more coherent and internally consistent.

Here endeth the rant... for now:)

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:50 pm 0

juice wrote:There also seems to be a tendancy towards plots involving "the doctor just so happens to be in the right place/time to save planet Earth from alien invasion - again", which is starting to get old, too. Can we get back to exploring the universe at some point, and getting involved with stuff which doesn't involve the end of the world?

Yeah. They've been pulling that stunt since 1963 and it's getting really tiresome.

arron · Post by **arron** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:56 pm 0

HGFB wrote:
juice wrote:There also seems to be a tendancy towards plots involving "the doctor just so happens to be in the right place/time to save planet Earth from alien invasion - again", which is starting to get old, too. Can we get back to exploring the universe at some point, and getting involved with stuff which doesn't involve the end of the world?
Yeah. They've been pulling that stunt since 1963 and it's getting really tiresome.

Perhaps it's like Quantum Leap..there's a plan behind it all, but we don't know who or why yet?

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:04 pm 0

juice wrote:
xav wrote:
juice wrote:Double post...
Temporal problem lads?
Seems like it - reading yakyak is fine, but posting is taking so long I thought it'd timed out...

Can someone pass the sonic screwdriver over?

Over the last day or so I've noticed the same problem, then if I close the browser (Firefox) down and open it back up in YY, I've been logged out.