(at that price, I would)
Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread
I think most Xbox's bought in japan are from people on Holiday there
(at that price, I would)
(at that price, I would)
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Yeah, now, see I was actually here for that discussion. Though I didn't definitely believe Sony would take the crown, I thought they had a good chance at it if they didn't screw up and provided the games. The enthusiasm for the PSP was incrediblly high, as opposed to the DS which left a lot of people unsure of what Nintendo was getting at. I'm not rewriting history, I'm backing up my view at the time based on the information I had available.gravy wrote:Got to stop you there, it was highly unlikely, the ludicrousness of that claim generating a lot of posts pointing out just how mad it was.Jamesac wrote:At the time the 5:1 figure for PSP:DS was mentioned, it wasn't unlikely. I don't think anyone expected Sony to screw up so badly. It was their battle to lose and they lost it with all their might.
James
Saying that the one market that Nintendo had dominated for years would be handed over to Sony on their first outing into this market and by a factor of 5 sales for every DS is obvious nonsense even if Sony did a bang up job of selling the thing. And a lot of people here said so.
You're rewriting historty there a bit claiming otherwise.
We don't do that here
"the one market that Nintendo had dominated for years", like the NES in the console world, or Sony for the last two generations? Don't see how they could possibly fall from grace now you mention it.
Finally, I don't really care what "a lot of people said". A lot of people have been wrong before, and I just don't feel the need to join them. Everyone could look at and understand the PSP, while the DS left a lot of consumers unsure as to why they'd want it. The games that shot Nintendo to the top weren't out yet, after all. Would you have predicted the incredible success of Brain Age in Japan, where the current 5:1 DS:PSP numbers are coming from?
Nintendo put some of the best things they've done on DS. Sony let the PSP become a dumping ground. Nintendo kicked Sony's ass. Fair enough, but my entire point is that, two years ago, it could have gone very differently despite what the Nintendo fans were saying at the time.
James
Depends, how are PS2 game sales doing?TFO wrote:DS, PS2 and Wii in that order.Flabio wrote:I'd hate to be a third party publisher or developer right now, what exactly do you target?
How well will they be doing in two years?
Its certainly the biggest userbase, but I suspect if your just starting to develop something now, by the time its actualy released there might not be many ps2 games being sold.
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*fixed that for you*Good luck finding many developers willing to work on ps2 or psp now
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Developers go where the money is.......Flabio wrote:Good luck finding many developers willing to work on ps2 or ds now. The vast majority of developers today don't fancy it, cause it's harder and less rewarding than the 360 or ps3.
Welcome to dilemma central.
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Exactly. From the developer point of view, the 360 and PS3 can both do cool things from a technical standpoint. The DS and Wii do cool things from a control point of view - designers might have fun. But programmers want cool hardware to fiddle withFlabio wrote:Good luck finding many developers willing to work on ps2 or ds now. The vast majority of developers today don't fancy it, cause it's harder and less rewarding than the 360 or ps3.
Welcome to dilemma central.
I can't wait to get my paws on 360 / PS3 devkits
I can think of plenty of games I'd like to fiddle with on the Wii, but that's unlikely to happen, at least for the time being...Cheers
Bubba
Personaly, Id hope some programers would be upto the rather new challanges having potential 1:1 feedback would present to them.
eg. How do you do you make charecters look conviencing fighting eachother, if the player isnt working too prescripted animations?
As yet, it seems no developers are upto this challenge, so its not wonder that would rather prefer the easier routes of 360/PS3 developmentt
Playing with graphic effects is of course, always more immediately more fun, but the team that first pulls of the techniques needed to Handel wii-style controls will get a heck of a lot more satisfaction over all. They would know they have done something genuinely new that effects gameplay.
eg. How do you do you make charecters look conviencing fighting eachother, if the player isnt working too prescripted animations?
As yet, it seems no developers are upto this challenge, so its not wonder that would rather prefer the easier routes of 360/PS3 developmentt
Playing with graphic effects is of course, always more immediately more fun, but the team that first pulls of the techniques needed to Handel wii-style controls will get a heck of a lot more satisfaction over all. They would know they have done something genuinely new that effects gameplay.
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Perhaps, but put on the market in Christmas 2006 it would have cost so much to make it would have been even less commercially successful than the PS3. Especially if, like Nintendo, you don't believe in subsidising your early hardware units.Bubba wrote:Wii Remote + Cell + 360 GPU would be rather interesting indeed...