Shadowrun (360/PC)

CarlBillen · Post by **CarlBillen** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:44 am 0

Has anyone tried it yet?

I have no experience with 'Shadowrun' so I have no opinion whether it remains true to the Role Playing Game; I am more interested in the fact that I might have a chance to play with my non-360 buddies...

Mat · Post by **Mat** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:20 am 0

Apparently they've gimped mouse aim for PC users and given 360 users a high level of autoaim.
I can't comment on how this affects the game, as I've not played it yet, and to be honest, I don't know if I want to. I used to play the P&P RPG, which this looks very, VERY different to.

DTB · Post by **DTB** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:13 am 0

I'm boycotting it since i found out it was a sandbox fightfest rather than an mmorpg world that it should have been.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:50 am 0

Same here.

ShadowTail · Post by **ShadowTail** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:09 pm 0

Noooooooooooo! Don't make it poo!

I've been waiting for a decent Shadowrun game for about forever.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:48 pm 0

Online only (bar some training against very weak AI bots), so you'll need a gold account. Full price as well.

It's got turkey written all over it.

And no reviews yet, cause until people have it and are playing it online, there's nothing to review...

Stone · Post by **Stone** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:11 pm 0

Flabio wrote:Online only

Wtf? That's a fucking stupid idea and a half

Stone

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:37 pm 0

The reviews commence. Two 6/10's so far:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=77198
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=165065

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:44 pm 0

Yup....got very little to do with the table top game at all except the setting and name. It looks pretty dire, tbh. The closest you can get to a decent Shrun computer game these days is still to fire up a SNES emulator and play the great old cartridge of the same name.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:00 pm 0

No singleplayer means no purchase. And the PC version is Vista only, I hear.

Fuck that shit.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:53 am 0

WiteWulf wrote:Yup....got very little to do with the table top game at all except the setting and name. It looks pretty dire, tbh. The closest you can get to a decent Shrun computer game these days is still to fire up a SNES emulator and play the great old cartridge of the same name.

Ooh, I used to love the SNES version. Can't remenber if I ever completed it, though. Any other good shadowrun-games out there.

CarlBillen · Post by **CarlBillen** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:17 am 0

Well, I have this game now for a week and I am enjoying it tremendously.

I don't know anything about Shadowrun, and for me this is an advantage. Because I read on several forums that many people refuse to look at it because it barely has anything to do with the pen & paper RPG. If a 'Lord of The Rings Pinball' game would be released, and it would be a very good game, would you 'boycott' it because it has basically nothing to do with LOTR?

Well, I know the disadvantages (360 version is more expensive than PC version, PC version needs Vista, multiplayer only) and it has its 'child diseases' from having sometimes connection issues, but it is a game I like very much.

First of all, you have no leaderboards or ranking. As a result, you cannot compare yourself and boast about your 'leetness'. I don't know if it is the Halo 3 Beta that keeps the shouting/cursing loudmouths away, because in every game I played I barely met somebody annoying.

Furthermore, when you die, you die. There is no respawning. You do have a resurrect spell, which allows you to resurrect a team mate. That way you can 'respawn somebody else'. However, if you shoot bodies, they will disappear and they can't be resurrected.

You can only assign 3 kinds of magic/tech during a game. You start with limited money, and each round you might be buying something new. This way the strategy and tactics can change during the game. Meet someone who is sniping a very important crossroads point. Buy Smoke so that you become immaterial and can't be damaged (though you can be damaged by Gust and it only works for a limited time). The fact that you can use 3 different magic/techs, results in a lot of different combinations (and therefore strategies).

For the moment, a lot of people are running around has Elves (who are the fastest and have auto-healing capabilities) with Katanas, and dwarves shout 'Nerf Elves!'. But the Elves shout 'Nerf Tolls' because they have trouble killing those big things. And the trolls Shout 'Nerf Dwarves' because the dwarves suck the magic out of the Trolls Rock Skin and Tree Of Life. So in a way, it's rock-paper-scissors according to the races. But the races are very well balanced (and you can play a Human too). For the moment the Elves are the 'noob race' because they are fast, heal quickly and look mightily cool with the katana. (Though when you see a Troll on a Glider with a Minigun flying through the air you will know utter coolness).

You have 6 training missions in the beginning. If you do not do them, you will not know the potential of the game. Many people who say this game sucks haven't done them and are slaughtered within seconds. As a result, you get a lot of bad reviews...

All in all, it is a team game, because you need to rely on your buddies to ressurect you. The matchmaking is done automatically; it ranks people together and balances them according to their TrueSkill (which is not visible) and most games always end in 6-4 or 6-5 (very close indeed).

Sorry for the length of this post, but it is a good game, with (for the moment) a good community, but it has the price, multi-player-only, and "It's not real Shadowrun' boycott stacked against it.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:49 am 0

It's counterstrike with elves.

And I hate counterstrike.

CarlBillen · Post by **CarlBillen** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:05 am 0

Flabio wrote:It's counterstrike with elves.

And I hate counterstrike.

The online other online FPS I ever played was Perfect Dark Zero

And I never liked Halo or Halo 2 (didn't like the story and the levels and I really don't like the Master Chief), even to such a point, that when I played Uno, Hearts or Catan, I really try to screw the people over with Halo gamerpics... It's not nice of me, I know

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:52 am 0

Now, after all the Old School Shadowrun fans have been bitching about this (me included) I spot this today:
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/794/794689p1.html

Am I alone in thinking the concept art on there is strikingly similar to Shadowrun?

Just needs some orcses and elveses in the mix! It's a shame SOE didn't get the Shadowrun IP.