The Dr Who thread

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:56 pm 0

This was just about the best episode ever. I had my doubts last week but not anymore. Hats off to the Doctor Who team that they can produce such wonderful drama.

Col · Post by **Col** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:00 pm 0

A great big WOO to the Nottingham references in that episode!! That was fucking marvelous!

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:00 pm 0

Absolutely brilliant.

Gorecki · Post by **Gorecki** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:02 pm 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:Magnificent.

Seconded. Almost as good as Girl In The Fireplace. A fantastic script jam-packed with wonderful lines.

"You read that in a book"
"Yes! To pass an exam"

"He was braver than you."

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:06 pm 0

The BBC have made the original book available again. Well worth a read.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/ ... an_nature/

Istar · Post by **Istar** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:32 pm 0

Gotta say, for me, a 'meh' episode - transformed in the last 20 minutes or so to something wonderful. I was largely disconnected from the events playing out right until about the time I saw Tennant's face playing the scared John Smith in their flight from the school. Suddenly he popped out of 2D and became a real character, and from then on the whole thing just gathered pace and weight.

Again, a glimpse of the sheer power The Doctor embodies: "The fury of the Timelord" indeed. A dark, brooding presence in the galaxy that is entirely capable of exacting the harshest penalty on those foolhardy enough to cross a Galifreyan.

The interplay between Smith/Doctor and Nurse Redfern as these last scenes unfolded was gripping. And the WWI / veteran scenes at the end - no dry eyes here, I'm afraid.

I'd watch it again. 8/10.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:33 pm 0

Have to concur, really loved that

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:35 pm 0

I kind of agree with Istar, the start/middle seemed to drag a bit (I think), but it picked up towards the end nicely and the Remembrance scene at the end was quite touching.

offyoutoddle · Post by **offyoutoddle** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:39 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:This was just about the best episode ever. I had my doubts last week but not anymore. Hats off to the Doctor Who team that they can produce such wonderful drama.

couldn't have said it better - totally agree. Lets hope for more of that quality.

XOR · Post by **XOR** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:44 pm 0

Yeah, just awesome. And someone on here said Tennant was sleep-walking through the series...John Smith was Tennant sleepwalking, but not the Doctor.

Complex, emotive and tense. Good stuff.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:03 pm 0

So..... Eighth Doctor is totally canon, as seen in the book with McGann's face. Thus the doctor is, according to himself, half human (Eigth Doctor said so). In Lungbarrow, we see that the Other was 'woven' back as the Doctor and in the novelisation of Human Nature, it is implied that the other was actually..... someone finish my sentance for me.....

Sid James · Post by **Sid James** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:12 pm 0

The best piece of TV i've seen this year by a very very long way.

The ending almost brought me to tears!

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:13 pm 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:So..... Eighth Doctor is totally canon, as seen in the book with McGann's face. Thus the doctor is, according to himself, half human (Eigth Doctor said so). In Lungbarrow, we see that the Other was 'woven' back as the Doctor and in the novelisation of Human Nature, it is implied that the other was actually..... someone finish my sentance for me.....

Back in 2005 RTD said that McGann was canon but they were quietly pretending that the half-human thing never happened.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:16 pm 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:So..... Eighth Doctor is totally canon, as seen in the book with McGann's face. Thus the doctor is, according to himself, half human (Eigth Doctor said so). [...]

That the Doctor may have said something to somebody under certain circumstances does not make that statement true.

Sid James wrote:The best piece of TV i've seen this year by a very very long way.
The ending almost brought me to tears!

Only 'almost'?

You heartless bastard.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:17 pm 0

HGFB wrote:
Reverend Goatboy wrote:So..... Eighth Doctor is totally canon, as seen in the book with McGann's face. Thus the doctor is, according to himself, half human (Eigth Doctor said so). In Lungbarrow, we see that the Other was 'woven' back as the Doctor and in the novelisation of Human Nature, it is implied that the other was actually..... someone finish my sentance for me.....
Back in 2005 RTD said that McGann was canon but they were quietly pretending that the half-human thing never happened.

Was it not implied in the HN novel that the Other was of earthly origins, and he went into the Gallifreyan genetic looms?