FOOTBALL: Season 2006/07 Discussion Thread

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:44 pm 0

Well, yeah, Lampard Out is a rallying call for me too, but even then we have the Gerrard / Rooney problem and don't look to have the firepower up front.

fog · Post by **fog** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:04 pm 0

Dio wrote:Well, yeah, Lampard Out is a rallying call for me too, but even then we have the Gerrard / Rooney problem and don't look to have the firepower up front.

Well I'd at least like to see a bit of experimentation. We don't have an obvious partnership up front so why not play one up and support from midfield?

Hargreaves holding and Gerrard and Rooney in front of him. Rooney plays a lot in midfield for ManU and in that slightly more withdrawn role he might get a bit more space to be that creative player we are missing. For me that offer more security in midefield than the Gerrard/Lampard partnership and at the same time more of a goal threat.

Basically I'm sick of the manager sticking with the same players in the same system that we've played for a few years and know doesn't work. I can't honestly remember the last time an England manager tried something different in a friendly and for me, that's exactly what they should be used for.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:07 pm 0

Couldn't agree more, and yeah, the Christmas Tree sounds like a passable formation to me given the players we've got. If we did have a solid big man to put alongside Owen, then I we'd have the tough choice of playing Gerrard on the right or losing Rooney, but we haven't.

Like I said - reckon Arsene Wenger to take over in July next year is a good bet.

fog · Post by **fog** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:18 pm 0

Dio wrote:Couldn't agree more, and yeah, the Christmas Tree sounds like a passable formation to me given the players we've got. If we did have a solid big man to put alongside Owen, then I we'd have the tough choice of playing Gerrard on the right or losing Rooney, but we haven't.

It's worrying that I'm relying on a player totally untested at this level and coming back from a bad injury but I'm hoping Dean Ashton is the answer.

Dio wrote: Like I said - reckon Arsene Wenger to take over in July next year is a good bet.

God I hope you're right. I'd love Wenger to go in and shake up the FA at all levels. Get him involved in scouting for young talent, organising youth development and right through to the schoolboys, U21's and Seniors.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:01 pm 0

He'll have to keep quiet about that in the interview

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Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:25 pm 0

Heh. We've got Stan Collymore in the chatroom for the forum Col and I frequent for Forest. He's getting his arse well and truly kissed.

fog · Post by **fog** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:01 pm 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:Heh. We've got Stan Collymore in the chatroom for the forum Col and I frequent for Forest. He's getting his arse well and truly kissed.

He was quality at Forest. Shit for every club after that (not really but I haven't forgiven him for scoring the winning goal in that Liverpool 4 - 3 Newcastle game)

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:52 pm 0

When he's not in the grip of manic depression, he's a gent.

merman · Post by **merman** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:53 pm 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:Heh. We've got Stan Collymore in the chatroom for the forum Col and I frequent for Forest. He's getting his arse well and truly kissed.

Is there a crowd of people round the chatroom watching his arse getting kissed?

Munky · Post by **Munky** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:48 am 0

Reverend Goatboy wrote:Heh. We've got Stan Collymore in the chatroom for the forum Col and I frequent for Forest. He's getting his arse well and truly kissed.

Ask him if he threw a few punches off target before finally connecting with Ulrika's face.

After all, it's considerably smaller than a regulation 11-a-side football goal.

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:45 am 0

This may well be urban legend, but:

It's been said that he had a go at Ulrika in a pub in Paris during World Cup 1998. Apparently it was the de facto Tartan Army bar, and some of the fans didn't like it. Decided to take matters into their own hands.

Specifically, it's alleged, Ally McCoist, Ewan McGregor, and Ewan McGregor's dad...

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:02 am 0

Mmm.

According to the chap himself, when he trained with Forest last close season he immediately received a shitload of grief from the press, and as he's got himself children and a partner and other means of income and has overcome his depression to a large extent, he decided not to put himself in a position where he would cop abuse for stuff he's already copped his share of abuse for.

Every transgression has done its time on the front pages and d-list media won't hesitate to perpetuate it. He's shown his intelligence by not bothering to give them any encouragement, and protect his family from hurt. We had a campaign up to get him a comeback for this season and at the least he's been decent enough to show his face in our Forest corner of the web and politely decline, answer questions and show his appreciation with dignity and candour.

That the press will never ever leave the guy alone is predictable. That's he'll not at least try out for the Reds this season is every Forest supporter's loss.

At least the fan's passion for the club is untainted by recent capitulation on the pitch. I am glad to see this.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:08 am 0

Acronym wrote:This may well be urban legend, but:

It's been said that he had a go at Ulrika in a pub in Paris during World Cup 1998. Apparently it was the de facto Tartan Army bar, and some of the fans didn't like it. Decided to take matters into their own hands.

Specifically, it's alleged, Ally McCoist, Ewan McGregor, and Ewan McGregor's dad...

Not the first time I've heard that.

Working with depressed people, who can lash out when not on top of their illnes, I see the difference between him and them - he moved in famous circles at the time. Shame if it hauints him forever. People do what he did every day and eventually the world gets over it. I'd like to see the same happen for him.

Watching him play for Forest was like watching Cantona for the Utd faithful. 50 goals in 72 games, if I remember correctly. I never paid his career much attention after that and the papers even less. I can only imagine how it must have been for him though, being a Villa supporter (which is a punishment in itslef) and playing up front for your beloved club, who are managed by none other than John fucking Gregory. Depressed? I'd have endid it all there and then!

Munky · Post by **Munky** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:13 am 0

I couldn't give a shit about his private life either. (Other than to get a cheap laugh out of it). Just disappointed by him when he signed for us. Guess he was already past his peak at that time.

Reverend Goatboy wrote:I can only imagine how it must have been for him though, being a Villa supporter (which is a punishment in itslef) and playing up front for your beloved club, who are managed by none other than John fucking Gregory. Depressed? I'd have endid it all there and then!

I seem to recall him saying he was a Liverpool fan when he signed for them, then a Villa fan when we signed him.

I always thought he was a Wolves fan. Which must be depressing whoever is managing them.

goldfish · Post by **goldfish** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:35 am 0

I'm sure he'd've got less shite frm the press if he was called John Smith... there's too much public recollection and pisstake value in "Stan Collymore"...

Simon