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When you complete on difficulty X do you get the achievements for the easier difficulties?
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benedictw wrote:When you complete on difficulty X do you get the achievements for the easier difficulties?
Nope.
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Flabio wrote:
benedictw wrote:When you complete on difficulty X do you get the achievements for the easier difficulties?
Nope.
I have to admit the when you have a Japanese game, the achievements are either 'quite easy to get' or 'takes ages to get'. I think this game falls in the latter category... I've finished 'Easy' and 'Normal' and I think I spent some 10 hours on it...

In a sense they encourage you to play the game to the fullest (play every level on every difficulty) At least it aren't achievements like 'collect all bikinis for evey character in the game' :wink:
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chub wrote:
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chub wrote:I'm up to level 51 now. How many levels are there?
53 if I'm not mistaken... Almost there!

And then you can do it all again on a higher difficulty level :wink:
Thanks!

I'm doing it on Normal, and that's plenty hard enough for me.
With the more powerful weapons you get, plus enhanced health, beating EDF on Hard is worth taking a shot at. I even cleared a few levels (two or three) on Inferno to get bigger toys. Pure Grade-A brutal, but so worth it. :)

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I finished it on Normal last night. Those last few levels were Intense. I recommend anyone who hasn't finished it yet to carry on and get to the end, just to experience those battles.

This is a brilliant game, which is so much fun to play, has many funny moments, and has a unique graphical style that really gives it that bad sci-fi look (but in a good way). Yes it lacks polish, and the framerate dives on occasions, but then look at the size and number of enemies on the screen!

It generally got bad reviews, but I don't understand why. Maybe reviewers have no sense of fun anymore.

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chub wrote: It generally got bad reviews, but I don't understand why. Maybe reviewers have no sense of fun anymore.

"EDF! EDF!"
I don't think there's a lot I would've changed to be honest - gunsights for the vehicles, definately. Better achievements and erm, thats about it. Its a classic game for me.

Online co-op would be nice - but almost impossible to do with the sheer number of enemies on screen.
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What's the control system like for this? I suck massively at modern FPSes - just can't seem to aim and move together properly and thus die almost immedaitely every time. Does it have autoaim for idiots like me?

I really want to cause massive destruction to giant robots and alien ants but I dont' want to pay £20+ for something I can't get past level one on.
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DaiStation wrote:What's the control system like for this? I suck massively at modern FPSes - just can't seem to aim and move together properly and thus die almost immedaitely every time. Does it have autoaim for idiots like me?

I really want to cause massive destruction to giant robots and alien ants but I dont' want to pay £20+ for something I can't get past level one on.
It's left stick for moving, right stick for aiming as is often the case (it's 3rd person too). There's no autoaim, but you don't really need it since you're usually surrounded by enemies. Shooting vaguely in the right direction seems to do the trick. It depends on the weapon too, since the accuracy varies between them, so shooting directly at a distant enemy with a rocket doesn't always work. Shooting 20 rockets in quick succession works much better :) By the way you can adjust the speed of the aiming in the options (I ramped it up to max).
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It's great to see that people are still playing this! It has just got to hard for me to play alone. I have to wait until my friend visits (once in a blue moon!)
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I remember when playing on Easy I tried Level 2 on Hard, and managed to survive. Only one weapon dropped, which was this nice rocket launcher which does 600 damage and has a zoom. I have been using that during Easy and Normal all the way :D .

On Easy during the final battle I didn't know (or forgot) what the mothership's weak spot was (for massive damage) so I ended up shooting all the firing lasers. And then I had a "And now what?" moment because nothing happened anymore... That resulted in me clearing that level on Normal a wee bit quicker :lol:

Now I am at some 1700 health, ready to tackle 'Hard' but I want to try some 'easy' levels on Harder in the hope for a nice powerful with-plenty-of-ammo shooty thing...

The only things I don't like in the game is when the spiders shoot through walls (especially during the cave levels) and when you have cleared everything except 1 lonely ant/spider and you have to run for ten minutes before you can shoot it :x
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With the more powerful weapons you get, plus enhanced health, beating EDF on Hard is worth taking a shot at. I even cleared a few levels (two or three) on Inferno to get bigger toys. Pure Grade-A brutal, but so worth it. :)
8O how dood? I keep trying Hardest on some of the early levels but don't seem to get past the last wave of ants? hence I haven't even dared switch it to inferno!

can anyone reccomend an earlier level thats the easiest/shortest to repeat on Hardest etc.?

as for a overview of this little beauty, Its space invaders in 3D and it rocks ! even the original destructible barricades are still in the game play its just their an entire city instead of a Green blocks
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Haven't had this much fun since crackdown, Hell this is actually more fun cause I can Level the city.

Shit theres a thought a combination of the the characters, vehicles and city of crackdown with the destructibility and Aliens from EDF, wow 8O :D
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Terrypantsman wrote:Shit theres a thought a combination of the the characters, vehicles and city of crackdown with the destructibility and Aliens from EDF, wow 8O :D
Nice idea! Imagine that, the kingpin of Los Muertos being an enormous spider or something. The kingpin of Shai Gen would just have to be a Dinomech. He would need a bigger office though :)
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chub wrote:
Terrypantsman wrote:Shit theres a thought a combination of the the characters, vehicles and city of crackdown with the destructibility and Aliens from EDF, wow 8O :D
Nice idea! Imagine that, the kingpin of Los Muertos being an enormous spider or something. The kingpin of Shai Gen would just have to be a Dinomech. He would need a bigger office though :)
I am more thinking of stand in on a bridge and kicking the ants over the ledge :wink:
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Level 2 on Inferno isn't that bad, just use lots of homing rockets and keep your distance. Find a complimentary pair of weapons with lots o' damage and quick reload and you should do fine. I recommend homing rockets and a shotgun.

The first time the giant silver walkers appear is another good level to work on Inferno. Stay on top of the ridge and just keep pumping rockets into them and you'll do ok, eventually. Don't forget the tank at the top, it's acts as free armor and does nice damage if you can get the arc of fire right.

The third gimme Inferno level is the spider pit, although you'll die a few times because the bastards shoot through walls. Keep tossing the biggest explosive ordnance you can find over the edge, until there's only 2-3 spiders left. Kill off all but one spider, and run like mad. I finished that level a couple of times with the spider killing me as I killed it, and it counts as a win. :)

You should come out of there with some lovely explodey weapons. Just be patient and don't get upset when the level casually tears your head off and you'll do fine. :)

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Jamesac, thanks for the tip on Level 9, Inferno (the appearance of the giant silver walkers). I managed to do it :D
I only received one item that I didn't have (A nifty turret Machine Gun (ZERA-Gun?).

So I tried it again with the new weapon, and I am now in the proud possession of a 4-shot 500 dmg with 1.5 reload time :D

Just stand right behind the railroad track and pump missile into their heads. Then when one is left, jump into the tank, drive as close to the dropped items, and start running around. I only lost 700 of my 1700 life, so it can be done :D

As a result:
- 100 weapons collected
- 50+% completed
- 19+ hours spent :oops:
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