FOOTBALL: Season 2006/07 Discussion Thread

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:42 am 0

Munky wrote:I seem to recall him saying he was a Liverpool fan when he signed for them, then a Villa fan when we signed him.

I always thought he was a Wolves fan. Which must be depressing whoever is managing them.

I'm a fan of Lincoln City's, think Schofield has done a great job and there's some wonderful players at that proud littel club. But I'm a Forest fan. I think the press choose to ignore most subtle differencees with these things.

He was asked to clarify this yesterday though - he said growing up that Villa were the big local team and he followed them as a boy but being from Cannock Wolves are his most local team and despite them being at the arse end of the bottom division when he was a child, he's got a lot of affection for them. Not something I was about to pull him up on because I've got the same deal going on with Lincoln and Forest.

As for Liverpool, I think everybody up to and including Nigel Clough declared their passion for the club when they signed - you know what the fans get like.

At least he never spouted guff about loving Leicester when he joined them....

goldfish · Post by **goldfish** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:03 pm 0

Is this as boring to watch as it is to listen to...?

Simon

Col · Post by **Col** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:25 pm 0

Five live's Alan Green makes it worse. "Ledley King is crap and I told you so"

The other fella is only slightly less annoying, and England sound like poo.

Col · Post by **Col** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:48 pm 0

3-0 now, Becks makes the last two goals.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:10 pm 0

England have played tolerably well against some really poor opposition. Estonia are playing like a pub team. A good pub team, but a pub team nonetheless. They couldn't score in a brothel.

fog · Post by **fog** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:41 pm 0

Dio wrote:England have played tolerably well against some really poor opposition. Estonia are playing like a pub team. A good pub team, but a pub team nonetheless. They couldn't score in a brothel.

No you must be wrong. David Platt said England were Excellent in the first half. Mind he also said Lampard had been superb and proved he could play alongside Gerrard. No wonder he failed miserably in management.

Seriously I agree with you though. We were efficient against truly awful opposition. There's good reason why they haven't scored in any of their 7 qualifying games so far.

Ironic that Owen and Cole scored when they were pretty much passengers for the rest of the game and clearly aren't match fit yet. We really need to get away from selecting big name players like that and start picking players on form.

Crouch wants a slap for getting booked and being suspended from the next game. Shame as he was arguably our best and certainly most effective attacking player.

Oh yeah and can someone please explain Wes Brown?

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:43 pm 0

England beat Estonia, Scotland toil against the Faeroes.

CHAMP-I-ON-ES! CHAMPIONS!

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:07 pm 0

fog wrote:Ironic that Owen and Cole scored when they were pretty much passengers for the rest of the game and clearly aren't match fit yet. We really need to get away from selecting big name players like that and start picking players on form.

I thought Cole looked a bit better than that myself, and in the end Owen did the job he was there to do. Beckham played well too - again, until the rest of the team clicks up front he's showing he's a good choice.

Crouch wants a slap for getting booked and being suspended from the next game. Shame as he was arguably our best and certainly most effective attacking player.

His touch is fantastic but I'm still not sure he's a striker.

Oh yeah and can someone please explain Wes Brown?

Yeah, he hasn't been half as funny since his double act with Barthez was split up.

Oh, you mean, why is he wearing an England shirt? No idea whatsoever.

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:28 pm 0

England will never win anything until they realise that every match has ninety minutes. They just don't have the right attitude. I am fed up of games like this where, instead of going in for the kill and helping out their goal difference, they seem happy to just kill the game by passing it around. They may as well not have played the last fifteen minutes. Bunch of lazy, overpaid wankers.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:50 pm 0

More of a lack of imagination than will, usually.

fog · Post by **fog** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:13 pm 0

Dio wrote:
fog wrote:Ironic that Owen and Cole scored when they were pretty much passengers for the rest of the game and clearly aren't match fit yet. We really need to get away from selecting big name players like that and start picking players on form.
I thought Cole looked a bit better than that myself, and in the end Owen did the job he was there to do. Beckham played well too - again, until the rest of the team clicks up front he's showing he's a good choice.

Well Cole scored a cracking goal but I didn't see him put in a single cross or probing pass and that's not good enough. Fair enough if we'd been under pressure and he'd been tracking back, doing defensive duties, but he wasn't.

Dio wrote:More of a lack of imagination than will, usually.

So true but where does that come from? Lampard generally has 5 or 6 long range efforts every game for Chelsea and used to for England but I can't remember him having one in any of Englands last 3 or 4 games. He's clearly under instructions from McClaren not to shoot.

The U21's the previous night were great to watch and couldn't have been more different to the seniors. A couple of creative central midfielders and two wide players who each delivered several quality crosses. And most importantly they played at a much higher tempo and attacked for the full 90 mins. The senior teams sole intention in every game appears to be avoiding defeat at all costs regardless of the quality of the opposition.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:56 pm 0

That's the Premiership nowadays though, isn't it. Defence is hugely in the primacy right now.

merman · Post by **merman** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:10 am 0

Dio wrote:That's the Premiership nowadays though, isn't it. Defence is hugely in the primacy right now.

The national side won't get anywhere until they cure this hang-up of needing four defenders AND a holding midfielder. I'd much rather see us go 3-5-2. Since most teams play one up front, you don't need four men marking one. You can still have your ball-winner/defensive-minded midfielder in the middle, but you get the width of two attacking wing-backs. (Look at Euro 96 and how attacking that England team was)

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:19 am 0

That team had a supreme creative midfielder and two proper frontline all-around strikers though.

Sure, we have good attacking midfielders, but how many great all-around strikers are there right now? Henry, Drogba... who else? Dean Ashton's the only hope that might wear an England jersey in the next few years, and he could easily turn out to be another Beattie or Johnson.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:56 am 0

Viduka having a medical at St James Park. I'm impressed with the sort of players they've been looking for so far, though some dodgy french defenders can surely just be round the corner