The Netbook Thread

The Joy of Tech - Anything and everything about all things shiny..
Post Reply
User avatar
Space Cowboy
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 2837
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:17 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: space_covvboy
Contact:

Post by Space Cowboy »

That really does look like a neat piece of kit, and at that price point you really would be daft not to. I could quite easily see myself buying one, slinging it in a backpack and taking it with me pretty much everywhere. Just copy important documents to external storage when back at base. I want.
“I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.” - Winston Churchill
User avatar
Kemper_Boyd
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 11967
Joined: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:15 pm 0

Post by Kemper_Boyd »

Dio wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:$10 is way too low for the manufacturing cost of such a chip. They'd lose money at that level.
I dunno. Like I said, this is all guesses, but... $5k-$10k a 30cm wafer, isn't it? That's 1000 or so 70mm2 chips. Yield of 50-70%? Couple of $ for packaging? $10 is a feasible ballpark...
Prescott on 90nm was ~$40 for 112 mm^2. I think $10 is too low, and
you need to remember the north and south bridge.

Only Intel know the real costs, I'd still go back to Intel's aim of enabling
$500 UMPCs to be built and the $200 cost of the Asus model. It sounds
too good to be true. That said I'll be happy to be proved wrong. :)
User avatar
Dio
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 1:08 pm 0
Location: Newcastle UK

Post by Dio »

Kemper_Boyd wrote:Prescott on 90nm was ~$40 for 112 mm^2. I think $10 is too low, and you need to remember the north and south bridge.
Prescott had a mongo cache though - that's an easy casualty. Like I said, I'd guess 70-90mm2. And I'm assuming the chipset costs are covered in the motherboard, since I priced up a cheap intel Integrated board.
User avatar
Acronym
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 3982
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2003 8:18 pm 0
Yahoo Messenger: andrew_walkingshaw
Contact:

Post by Acronym »

Dio wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:Prescott on 90nm was ~$40 for 112 mm^2. I think $10 is too low, and you need to remember the north and south bridge.
Prescott had a mongo cache though
Intel's new product line, 'Blazin' Saddles'.
User avatar
Kemper_Boyd
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 11967
Joined: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:15 pm 0

Post by Kemper_Boyd »

Dio wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:Prescott on 90nm was ~$40 for 112 mm^2. I think $10 is too low, and you need to remember the north and south bridge.
Prescott had a mongo cache though - that's an easy casualty. Like I said, I'd guess 70-90mm2. And I'm assuming the chipset costs are covered in the motherboard, since I priced up a cheap intel Integrated board.
The size with a 512k L2 (A100 A110) rather than the 2MB L2 (Dothan and
Prescott) would leave you with a ~70 mm^2 chip. $10 seems like too little
to me, and as I already said nobody other than Intel knows how much these
chips cost to make.

Put it this way Via, the masters of cheap crap, have just been thrashed
by Asus at Via's favourite game. That surprises me. :)
User avatar
Firefox
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 11412
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 6:15 pm 0
Location: Sheffield

Post by Firefox »

gilesgoat wrote:Silly question .. how can it run any OSs of today that require a swap file ( both Linux and Windows need it ) on flash ram only ?
I'm not sure about Windows, but you don't have to run Linux with swap enabled.
"I am a very considerate person. If I want to go out all night on my miniature golf course and shoot lizards, well, no reason to keep the neighbours awake..."
User avatar
Atty
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 2289
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2002 10:11 am 0
Location: Currently sitting on my arse.

Post by Atty »

Video of the Eee PC in the flesh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLJJw6WRqM

Looks nice, apart from the large black bezel which makes the rather small 7" screen look even smaller. They talked about a 10" model, too, although I've not seen any pictures of it yet.
Straight Outta Trumpton.
User avatar
Dio
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 1:08 pm 0
Location: Newcastle UK

Post by Dio »

Actually that looks like it would be a better fit to that keyboard size. Probably lose a bit of battery life though.
Mine'sAPint
Baaa!
Baaa!
Posts: 190
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2003 7:31 pm 0
Location: Seattle
Contact:

Post by Mine'sAPint »

Oh, that is sweet, I want!

Anyone know what the screen resolution is ?

I've got a prototype device here with a beautiful LCD panel running 1024x600, the panel measures 12.5x7cm, just about the same size as the ASUS screen from my rough eyeballing. I think that would be a pretty good resolution.

Not a fan of the Foleo. I got to mess with one for a few minutes the other day - too big, too heavy and just kind of a dumb idea IMO.
User avatar
Kemper_Boyd
Sheepie Whore
Sheepie Whore
Posts: 11967
Joined: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:15 pm 0

Post by Kemper_Boyd »

Mine'sAPint wrote:Oh, that is sweet, I want!

Anyone know what the screen resolution is ?
Something like 800x480 I believe.
User avatar
oNyx
Baaaaa!
Baaaaa!
Posts: 1652
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:24 am 0
Location: de/fd

Post by oNyx »

Atty wrote:Video of the Eee PC in the flesh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLJJw6WRqM

Looks nice, apart from the large black bezel which makes the rather small 7" screen look even smaller. They talked about a 10" model, too, although I've not seen any pictures of it yet.
Aww... awesome vid :wub:
Kronos

Post by Kronos »

Kemper_Boyd wrote:
Mine'sAPint wrote:Oh, that is sweet, I want!

Anyone know what the screen resolution is ?
Something like 800x480 I believe.
Yes 800x480 is stated in the spec's for the 7" screen. Which is exactly the same screen size and resolution as the Libretto 100CT and 110CT machines, it's ok if the screen is as good as on those Librettos which I'm sure it should be given they are PentiumMMX laptops.

10" would probably be 1024x600 from experience of the Sony C1 picturebooks. Don't think at this price it would go to 1280x768 etc which is the highest I've seen on a 10" widescreen format LCD.

That video says the 10" model won't be released until next year and could look different anyway.

I've just shown this to two friends and they want one aswell, ASUS better get the factories on 24/7 ASAP and launch it in the UK quickly :)

edit: The OS is Xandros distro of Linux, more info here
User avatar
xav
Baaaaaa!
Baaaaaa!
Posts: 2455
Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2002 5:32 pm 0
Location: Bucks, UK
Contact:

Post by xav »

Looks nice in the vid, but they really should lose the Windows key and replace it with something more generic if the bulk of the machines are intended to run Linux. I'd draw the line at making it a "Tux Key" though :)
Co-creator of The Greys, Monsters, Inked & Elvie webcomics
• Web Site • Twitter • Patreon •
Mine'sAPint
Baaa!
Baaa!
Posts: 190
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2003 7:31 pm 0
Location: Seattle
Contact:

Post by Mine'sAPint »

silent_unicorn wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:
Mine'sAPint wrote:Oh, that is sweet, I want!

Anyone know what the screen resolution is ?
Something like 800x480 I believe.
Yes 800x480 is stated in the spec's for the 7" screen. Which is exactly the same screen size and resolution as the Libretto 100CT and 110CT machines, it's ok if the screen is as good as on those Librettos which I'm sure it should be given they are PentiumMMX laptops.

10" would probably be 1024x600 from experience of the Sony C1 picturebooks. Don't think at this price it would go to 1280x768 etc which is the highest I've seen on a 10" widescreen format LCD.

That video says the 10" model won't be released until next year and could look different anyway.

I've just shown this to two friends and they want one aswell, ASUS better get the factories on 24/7 ASAP and launch it in the UK quickly :)

edit: The OS is Xandros distro of Linux, more info here
Shame, I was hoping for a little higher than 800x480. Still want want want though :D

The screen I have here is 5.6" diagonal 1024x600 and it is stunning. Probably bloody expensive though I would imagine. I need to get around to converting it into a nice little desktop photo frame sometime :idea:
User avatar
XOR
Baaaa!
Baaaa!
Posts: 534
Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 2:11 pm 0
Location: Taunton

Post by XOR »

Gong bashing.
I need a cup of tea pls
WEBSITE
MYSPACE
Post Reply