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IronGiant wrote:Okay, another nit-pick - given that the Doc has, by his own admittance, done a fair bit of modifying on the TARDIS, how the heck did the Master know how to operate it 'just like that' what with all the stop-gap modifications?

I'm sure the bicycle pump must have caused him some puzzlement, and as for the bicycle bell ........ ;)
Are you suggesting the Master is some kind of evil genius? ;)
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IronGiant wrote:Okay, another nit-pick - given that the Doc has, by his own admittance, done a fair bit of modifying on the TARDIS, how the heck did the Master know how to operate it 'just like that' what with all the stop-gap modifications?
The Master has always had much more technical ability than the Doctor.
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Stuart B wrote: Are you suggesting the Master is some kind of evil genius? ;)
Don't be silly! ;)
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HGFB wrote: The Master has always had much more technical ability than the Doctor.
So, if he sees a bicycle pump attached to the console he's going to immediately know that it's the trans-warp stabiliser thingy-wotsit (or whatever the heck it's supposed to be)? :)

I obviously don't give the poor guy enough credit. ;)
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IronGiant wrote:
HGFB wrote: The Master has always had much more technical ability than the Doctor.
So, if he sees a bicycle pump attached to the console he's going to immediately know that it's the trans-warp stabiliser thingy-wotsit (or whatever the heck it's supposed to be)? :)

I obviously don't give the poor guy enough credit. ;)
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HGFB wrote:
He escaped the Eye when the 8th Doctor let a runaway fusion reactor detonate inside the Tardis during The Gallifrey Chronicles. From there he at some unknown point regenerated and was killed by Ace in a Virgin NA. Then he showed up again during the 8th Doctor book run after the Doctor destroyed Gallifrey for the first time when the Doctor had amnesia saying the Universe was too dangerous for his kind and he was going away for a while. Interesting no? I'd never have expected RTD to give the nod to the book series
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you know a lot of people seem to not like John Simm camping it up a bit. I'm not sure your being fair - firstly I think you need to watch Ainley a bit again, and then I think you must give the guy some credit - can you imagine how much fun he must have been having playing The Master?

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HGFB wrote: You think too much. Stop thinking!
:lol:

But I LIKE thinking and I love programmes that make me think ....... on that count Utopia was a winner. ;)
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SimonB wrote:I knew from way back that Jacobi was playing someone with a secret, and assumed what it would be even before the Simm rumours started but the way around it was brilliant.
I thought it would be a return to the Hartnell historicals with Jacobi reprising his role as CLAU-CLAU-CLAUDIUS. :wink:
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HGFB wrote:Yes. I'm often surprised at how people don't seem to be able to listen to the words during an episode. There were a few people on the OG forums who mentioned the lack of evolution despite the Doctor's clear explanation for it.
I didn't get that as well. But then again I'm not a native English speaker and when they speak really fast it's hard to understand the dialogue. I didn't get half of 42 either (wondered why everyone blamed the Captain).
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HGFB wrote:Yes. I'm often surprised at how people don't seem to be able to listen to the words during an episode. There were a few people on the OG forums who mentioned the lack of evolution despite the Doctor's clear explanation for it.
I didn't get that as well. But then again I'm not a native English speaker and when they speak really fast it's hard to understand the dialogue. I didn't get half of 42 either (wondered why everyone blamed the Captain).
It's usually the lousy, overloud music that drowns out the dialogue.
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Ollie wrote:
2) The Master being called YANA, as in You Are Not Alone - that was just stupid. I mean I can't think of any possible reason for it other than RTD thinking it was clever without thinking through how or why it could have happened.
Well I just thought that maybe the Face of Boe chose his words to suit the circumstance, rather then him being called YANA for that reason. Maybe Boe was a poetic little fellow.
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I never liked Ainley hamming it up to that much of an extreme... a bit yes, but not totally over the top. It spoiled the character slightly. But it wasn't Ainley's fault, he did want to downplay it more like Delgado afaik but was instructed to otherwise by the script and/or director.

But I guess we'll wait and see just how Simm takes it through... I do wish Jacobi could have been given some of next week's episode before being forced to rejuvinate though...
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Ollie wrote:2) The Master being called YANA, as in You Are Not Alone - that was just stupid. I mean I can't think of any possible reason for it other than RTD thinking it was clever without thinking through how or why it could have happened.
He was found, presumably human, as a naked orphan on Boe's home planet. Who raised him? Who named him?
Mayhem wrote:But I guess we'll wait and see just how Simm takes it through... I do wish Jacobi could have been given some of next week's episode before being forced to rejuvinate though...
Sir Derek is a very busy man. They were lucky to get him for just one episode. I personally adored his regeneration scene being a cross between both Hartnell's and Eccleston's.

We shall see, I think, what Simm's Master is like once he has recovered from his post-regeneration instability.

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I liked the fact that even while dead Jack could tell that someone was kissing him. :)
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