Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

MattyP · Post by **MattyP** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:53 pm 0

Perkunas wrote:Excellent. All we need now is a GUI update with extra features and the possibility to use SD cards + HDD as storage.

Or a PS3..

I was actually contemplating actually trading my Wii in towards a PS3 today... just a bit fed of waiting for the decent games to come through... yes yes RE4 is out soon, but I have that already (PS2 version) - don't think the new control method would make me play it through (again).

I'm also getting slightly peeved at the software prices... was in HMV the other day (not the cheapest places to buy games admittedly) looked on the Wii shelf for something to buy.... couldn't find a single thing that interested me. I mean cooking Mama ? Â£40? I got Forza for my 360 for Â£29. Just a bit annoyed that they charge so much for a game that a decent dev co could knock out in what a couple of months when you compare it to something like Forza 2 on 360 or Resistance Fall Of Man on PS3 which can be had for less and has had a much larger budget and more time lavished on them to create a more imersive experience.

Something like, for example, Cooking Mama should not be more than Â£20 IMHO. Still smarting after coughing up Â£35 for Wario Ware smooth moves.... and don't get me started on the price of VC games...

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:07 pm 0

The PS3 hardly has any decent games for awhile either.
It always take a good year and a half with any console.
If you really want to trade your wii, a 360 makes more sense.

As for prices, well, shop online.
The highstreat isnt worth touching with a barge pole now.

Resistance RRP is also Â£40, incidently.
The only reason its cheaper is theres plenty to get rid off

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:10 pm 0

Baggypants wrote:
Gorecki wrote:
Official press release wrote:NINTENDO'S WIIWARE PAVES THE WAY FOR FRESH GAMES, COOL CONSUMER EXPERIENCES

Nintendo Sets a New Paradigm: One Game Can Still Make a Difference

SANTA MONICA, Calif., June 27, 2007 – The search for the next ingeniously ground-breaking video game has begun. At a private developers conference this week, Nintendo announced the introduction of WiiWare™, a game-creation service that will allow developers large and small to create new downloadable video game content for sale by Nintendo through the Wii Shop Channel of the hot Wii™ home video game system. WiiWare paves the way for smaller, more creative games to make their way to the public at lower prices, without any inventory risk to developers. The first WiiWare content will launch in early 2008.

"Independent developers armed with small budgets and big ideas will be able to get their original games into the marketplace to see if we can find the next smash hit," says Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime. "WiiWare brings new levels of creativity and value to the ever-growing population of Wii owners."

The possibilities for WiiWare are limited only by the imaginations of developers. WiiWare provides game creators a simple method by which they can get their games to the public. This approach, combined with the remarkable motion controls of the Wii Remote™ and Nunchuk™, will give birth to fresh takes on established genres, as well as original ideas that currently exist only in developers' minds. The reduced barriers to development provide developers the freedom to create and an inexpensive, clearly defined path to reach consumers who will ultimately determine which game will become the Next Big Thing.

WiiWare will be posted on the Wii Shop Channel. As with current Wii Shop Channel offerings, users will redeem Wii Points™ to download content. It will support a variety of pricing options. Details about that and upcoming projects will be announced at a later date. For more information about Wii, visit Wii.com.

The worldwide innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its Wii™, Nintendo DS™, Game BoyÂ® Advance and Nintendo GameCube™ systems. Since 1983, Nintendo has sold nearly 2.4 billion video games and more than 409 million hardware units globally, and has created industry icons like Mario™, Donkey KongÂ®, MetroidÂ®, Zelda™ and PokÃ©monÂ®. A wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo's operations in the Western Hemisphere. For more information about Nintendo, visit the company's Web site at http://www.Nintendo.com.
Good news for any indie game makers there then.

revengeofthephotongridhoverbovverllam-a-trongiraffewithSDcardvlm please

Yeah, its great news.

However, I dont like the idea I heard of Nintendo setting prices :-/

Developers should charge what they want, and Nintendo takes a fixed %.

MattyP · Post by **MattyP** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:18 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:The PS3 hardly has any decent games for awhile either.
It always take a good year and a half with any console.
If you really want to trade your wii, a 360 makes more sense.

As for prices, well, shop online.
The highstreat isnt worth touching with a barge pole now.

Resistance RRP is also Â£40, incidently.
The only reason its cheaper is theres plenty to get rid off

Indeed I agree! (Nearly all my game buying is on the 'net). My point was I don't consider for example things like Cooking Mama or Wario Ware worth the asking prices that's all.. how can Ninty for example justify Wario Wares price of Â£30 when you can get a masterpiece like Zelda for the same price? Suppose it's market driven though... if people will buy it at that price then they'll sell it at that price etc...

Not trading it in but the thought did cross my mind, then I looked at the release schedule on the PS3

(already have a 360 at the moment... well until it breaks down that is...

)

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:21 pm 0

MattyP wrote:I was actually contemplating actually trading my Wii

Does game offer decent trade ins for yellow wee?

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:34 pm 0

So how does this WiiWare thing work then? Is it an avenue for indie developers like XBLA, or is it more like the Creators Club? Is it also middleware like XNA? What languages can we use and what are the size restrictions?

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:48 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:So how does this WiiWare thing work then? Is it an avenue for indie developers like XBLA, or is it more like the Creators Club? Is it also middleware like XNA? What languages can we use and what are the size restrictions?

At this point it sounds like XBLA - IE you use a SDK to create the game. Mind you, all we've got to go on is a press release. They're going to be damm stupid not to do demos with novel games on the Wii.

Baggypants · Post by **Baggypants** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:48 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:So how does this WiiWare thing work then? Is it an avenue for indie developers like XBLA, or is it more like the Creators Club? Is it also middleware like XNA? What languages can we use and what are the size restrictions?

Homebrew SNES innit

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:52 pm 0

nah, they mention innovation with the motion controll.

MattyP wrote:
Darkflame wrote:The PS3 hardly has any decent games for awhile either.
It always take a good year and a half with any console.
If you really want to trade your wii, a 360 makes more sense.

As for prices, well, shop online.
The highstreat isnt worth touching with a barge pole now.

Resistance RRP is also Â£40, incidently.
The only reason its cheaper is theres plenty to get rid off
Indeed I agree! (Nearly all my game buying is on the 'net). My point was I don't consider for example things like Cooking Mama or Wario Ware worth the asking prices that's all.. how can Ninty for example justify Wario Wares price of Â£30 when you can get a masterpiece like Zelda for the same price? Suppose it's market driven though... if people will buy it at that price then they'll sell it at that price etc...

Not trading it in but the thought did cross my mind, then I looked at the release schedule on the PS3 (already have a 360 at the moment... well until it breaks down that is... )

Well, Id guess also theres some issue with sales numbers.
Zelda would sale a lot more then some obscure random "noval" game.

Then again, stuff like wareware and cooking mama do sale big in Japan, so that logic breaks done.
I agree things should be sold to reflect their price to develope.

But, on the other hand, If Nintendo makes a killing on Brain Training, then it probably helps fund other games.

Perhaps if we ask for proportionate pricing we will end up with Cooking Mama for Â£10 and Zelda for Â£80

(Id still pay

well, it would still be cheaper then the cinema per hour these days)

As for you, well.
If wiimote Harry Potter isnt your thing, you might be better catching up on old games you have missed for awhile?
I know I got a lot of AAA regarded last gen games still to experience.

Nintendodragon · Post by **Nintendodragon** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:53 pm 0

I was in Asda a few days ago and noticed that there wasnt a single Wii game over Â£34, most of them were Â£29...

edit,

also i really hope cooking mama does well, I'm tempted to get it myself. its the kind of game that i wasnt expecting to be realeased over here, but i guess it appeals to Nintendos new audiance, every one except mainstream gamers..

The Captain · Post by **The Captain** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:02 am 0

Nintendodragon wrote: also i really hope cooking mama does well, I'm tempted to get it myself. its the kind of game that i wasnt expecting to be realeased over here, but i guess it appeals to Nintendos new audiance, every one except mainstream gamers..

You will probably be disappointed with Cooking Mama - the DS version is amazing but the Wii controls are a misfire, with very specific motions taking the place of a button press, rather than feeling intuitive and hands-on. It feels like a real retrograde step after the likes of WarioWare Touched!

Nintendodragon · Post by **Nintendodragon** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:07 am 0

well i made a huge spanish omlett for diner, so i dont need the game.. (although i could leard some new dishes..)

my omlet was amazing! i fried up the potato and salted them and then added it with cheese prawns and spring onions..

I'm practically drooling as i think about it!

also i have no idea how to spell omlet but i dont care.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:30 am 0

It has a u in it, so is rumoured anyway.
Not that I'm one for advice.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:37 am 0

No it doesn't

Omelette.

Cheers

Bubba

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:52 am 0

I rest my case.

Id also like to vote that's one of the most stupidest spelt words ever.
Not as bad as Messhier though...Mesier..Mehsiger...Mehhsire....that wat thing people think dat Jesus bloke is