So what do we think of this?

[Meow]

OK, head above the parapet time. Someone's going to have to explain to me what's racist about the above strip.

Oh let me think now, (looking really hard ) I'm pretty sure it the way the sick guy and his wife are drawn.

Beside Tintin was a Nazi Colaberator

[Tmuk]

Oh let me think now, (looking really hard ) I'm pretty sure it the way the sick guy and his wife are drawn.

A stereotypical representation of black tribes people you mean? It's a comic book - you've got a stereotypical representation of a northern European boy as the main character. He's got blonde hair, blue eyes, fair skin...

[Chuffmeister]

Herge edited out all references to Nazi's after the war was over from Tin Tin books so adjusting this one so it doesn't cause offence shouldn't be a big deal to the publisher or Herge's estate.

I'm more offended by the fact that people like Tin Tin to be honest. He's a bit shit really

Where is the fun in that?

[Ratsoap]

Oh dear. That looks very familiar. I'm pretty sure I read that as a child (in a library), and didn't think anything of it.
That was only the 80s, it's must have been acceptable then too..

Nah, you must just be racist. Couldn't even have a cup of black coffee in London in the 80's without some lefty in dungarees leaping down your throat. It's 'coffee without milk'.

As for Tintin, I wonder why he is being singled out? Hunners of old shit has vaguely racist content, including stuff like P.G. Wodehouse, are we going to start banning that too?

[gravy]

Herge edited out all references to Nazi's after the war was over from Tin Tin books so adjusting this one so it doesn't cause offence shouldn't be a big deal to the publisher or Herge's estate.

I'm more offended by the fact that people like Tin Tin to be honest. He's a bit shit really

Where is the fun in that?

Herge edited out all references to Nazi's after the war was over from Tin Tin books so adjusting this one so it doesn't cause offence shouldn't be a big deal to the publisher or Herge's estate.

I'm more offended by the fact that people like Tin Tin to be honest. He's a bit shit really

[defsdoor]

Let erase all potentially offensive things from our history. We aren't capable of looking at it and judging it based upon where we are today and what we have learned on the way.

[teamonkey]

As for Tintin, I wonder why he is being singled out? Hunners of old shit has vaguely racist content, including stuff like P.G. Wodehouse, are we going to start banning that too?

[piku]

Beside Tintin was a Nazi Colaberator

Yeah well Roal Dahl had some unfashionable viewpoints and Enid Blyton wrote about common viewpoints popular at her time.

Hell, in 50 years time future generations will probably look back at our current political rubbish with a bit of embarrassment.

[PinkFearie]

Banning aside, why is it still being published?

Why not?

[EDIT]
I should probably add that I've bought that book, along with many other Tintin books. I like Tintin. It's not a great story as far as Tintin goes, but it's interesting if you're a fan of Herge and it's nice to see how the comic evolved. There's an introduction explaining the motivations and yes, there was a paper "Racist warning" band sealing it.

I've also bought "Ten Little Niggers" by Agatha Christie.

dude i collect 2cv's and i have a original sales catalogue with the yeti/himalayen hairy dude tin tin story in it. pretty cool thing to hold on to. are you aware of any other tintin stuff but with 2cv's in?

[TwistedScrote]

Lets have a book burning.

I've a copy of the bible I can donate

RELIGION MENTIONED!

TWISTED SCROTE OUTBURST IMMINENT!

Hahahahahaaaaaaa


Cunt.


You won't lure me into your fancy word trap......!

[Jamesac]

Ban Tintin? No thanks.

It's too late to edit Congo now, the only person whose rewrite would be acceptable has been dead for years. Keeping it available with a little note saying "Sorry about that folks, Herge was young and naive at the time." seems the best course of action.

James

[Jimmy T. @]

You could say that 'The Blue Lotus' is arguably worse, what with it's stereotypical portrayal (again for the time) of Chinese and Japanese people.

I've still got my original hardback editions of both somewhere, from when they were first translated into English in the early 80's; I'll have to dig them out soon and see what my more jaundiced 'adult' eye makes of them now.

[PFVA]

All the way back in the 70s i read an inteview with Hergé in which he mentioned he had asked for Tintin au Congo and Tintin au Pays de Sovietiques not to be re-edited.

Why does the issue is still being debated?

The original editions are still going around selling for about 250 Euros and they should not be banned. Those were originals. Just respect the request and do no re-edit the thing.

Unfortunately TinTin au Congo reflected pretty much the colonial mentality of the 1930s and later, and quinine wasn't actually an European discovery but a distribution of it to areas where it wasn't known. Quinine was already used by some of the natives of what it's nowadays South Africa.

Exactly for that the original editions should stay around as an historical document. The same goes for Tintin aux Pays des Sovietiques that it's quite an interesting document of the propaganda of the Cold War and before it.

Just don't re-edit it to attend the request of Hergé. and if possible place the existant books in libraries.

Edit: Actually Tintin au Congo was redesigned by Hergé in colour in 1946 and by that time he already modified some of the most rough colonialist details

Sorry it's in French. In the black and white version Tintin says "today we're going to talk about our Nation, Belgium" In the second one he teaches Arithmetic.

http://www.actuabd.com/IMG/jpg/Tintin_au_congo.jpg

[PumaG]

Do you think Matt Groening may have ripped off these characters? he has companies called Bongo and Zongo comics too