Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Baggypants · Post by **Baggypants** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:17 pm 0

Blast Works (Tumiki fighters) previewed on IGN, Ho Hum you may well say, but check out the comments at the bottom!

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/804/804992p1.html

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:19 pm 0

I remember playing the PC version and felt a bit 'meh' about it, I hope the Wii version is an improvement.

oddbob0 · Post by **oddbob0** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:33 pm 0

Don't make me read IGN comments again, they're almost as bad as Kotaku ones

I'm looking forward to it, especially knowing its going to have rRootage and the original Tumiki Fighters tucked inside it. Throw in Gunroar! and thats it, I'll never need another Wii game... unless someone ports Warning Forever of course

*edit*

Once upon a time there was a PC shareware game called Tumiki Fighters

Gnnnnk! *bangs head*

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:35 pm 0

Bubba wrote:
disciple wrote:Horses for courses innit, remind me to pop in the 360 thread one day and talk about how archaic its sub-par user interface is!
By user interface I suppose you mean the dashboard. I honestly can't believe anyone would prefer the Wii's "channel" interface to the 360s blade structure. Especially when you've got lots of downloaded titles. Not to mention the whole consistent / persistent online aspect. But as you say, horses for courses.

Well obviously I was referring to that "joypad" thingy the 360 uses.

But yes now you're getting it you have a valid complaint there since both platforms aim to offer a similar online shop service working from a similar baseline and so can be compared.

However comparing Wii graphics to 360 graphics seems to be just a way to rag on the Wii. It's like going into a bike shop and buying a BMX, then returning a while later and complaining that it's not as fast as a racing bike. Horses for courses. The Wii isn't a graphics powerhouse, accept its graphics for what they are and understand that it's a change of direction and is (very successfully) advancing gaming in a new direction.

Bubba wrote:The shimmering is from a lack of ansio filtering which most Japanese games seem to use - Dio has made very thoughtful posts on this in the past. It just particularly sticks out on Resi4 for some reason.

Is there something wrong with me if I've played ~30 hours of RE4 on the Wii and not noticed any shimmering issue.

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:52 pm 0

IronGiant wrote:
HGFB wrote:Likewise I suspect I'm not going to like all this running round planets, defying gravity coupled with lots of fancy twitching the wiimote around.
It's all the above that really appeals to me.

Yeah, me too. Looking at the recent vids has made me smile massively. They've really refreshed Mario, obviously keeping his history but with great chunks of actually new gameplay and mechanic built around the Galaxy theme. And it looks beautiful too.

Can't wait

.

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:59 pm 0

disciple wrote: Is there something wrong with me if I've played ~30 hours of RE4 on the Wii and not noticed any shimmering issue.

I think part of it is being a professional in this field, which apparently Dio is. Something that seems minor or even unnoticeable to you or I sticks out like a sore thumb to those that deal with it day in day out. I had a friend who was an extremely talented musician. He just could not listen to "Don't Look Back in Anger" by Oasis due to a specific chord change breaking some obscure rule of music theory. He just couldn't hear the tune and enjoy it, he couldn't turn off the musician inside of him.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:10 pm 0

Heh - you think I'm bad, I've got mates who have the genuine 'magic eyes' for doing image quality work. They can look at static shots and spot the most ridiculously tiny errors.

I heard stories years ago about a bloke who could look at a monitor and tell you it's gamma and now I've seen the magic eyes at work it's probably true.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:20 am 0

I can tell the difference between 18 frames a second and 20. This is not a gift thats all that useful outside my profession.

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:04 am 0

amanset wrote:
disciple wrote: Is there something wrong with me if I've played ~30 hours of RE4 on the Wii and not noticed any shimmering issue.
I think part of it is being a professional in this field, which apparently Dio is. Something that seems minor or even unnoticeable to you or I sticks out like a sore thumb to those that deal with it day in day out. I had a friend who was an extremely talented musician. He just could not listen to "Don't Look Back in Anger" by Oasis due to a specific chord change breaking some obscure rule of music theory. He just couldn't hear the tune and enjoy it, he couldn't turn off the musician inside of him.

I've been classically trained as a singer - I can perceive 1/4 tones differences.
This makes listening to many singers uncomfortable for me.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:06 am 0

I'm not in the games industry. I'm not trained as a singer. I just know when a game looks crap compared to other games. Note that I'm not saying RE4 is a bad game. It's not. It's a very entertaining game with some very satisfying headshots.

It's just a bit of a blocky mess is all. Made worse by my TV having to upscale it.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:09 am 0

I spotted a punctuation error in Lord of the Rings in the first chapter at the age of 8 - the book was ruined. In other words I think people need to get a grip.

c64audio · Post by **c64audio** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:26 am 0

Yak wrote:
IronGiant wrote:
HGFB wrote:Likewise I suspect I'm not going to like all this running round planets, defying gravity coupled with lots of fancy twitching the wiimote around.
It's all the above that really appeals to me.
Yeah, me too. Looking at the recent vids has made me smile massively. They've really refreshed Mario, obviously keeping his history but with great chunks of actually new gameplay and mechanic built around the Galaxy theme. And it looks beautiful too.

Can't wait .

It's like they took Mario 64 and added in Iridis Alpha (or Ancipital with all that grav stuff)

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:41 am 0

TFO wrote:
amanset wrote:
disciple wrote: Is there something wrong with me if I've played ~30 hours of RE4 on the Wii and not noticed any shimmering issue.
I think part of it is being a professional in this field, which apparently Dio is. Something that seems minor or even unnoticeable to you or I sticks out like a sore thumb to those that deal with it day in day out. I had a friend who was an extremely talented musician. He just could not listen to "Don't Look Back in Anger" by Oasis due to a specific chord change breaking some obscure rule of music theory. He just couldn't hear the tune and enjoy it, he couldn't turn off the musician inside of him.
I've been classically trained as a singer - I can perceive 1/4 tones differences.
This makes listening to many singers uncomfortable for me.

I have been playing the saxophone for about 25 years and I have the same problem. It's mostly annoying in movie scores, especially when the orchestra used is not "top notch", like the original Conan the barbarian soundtrack. Lovely music in it's own right, but technically quite lacking, which unfortunately removes some of the enjoyment, because I pick on stuff most others won't even notice.

A friend of mine who does some composing on his PC refuses to let me listen to his music...mainly because I'm brutally honest

And SMG looks bloody brilliant, probably one of the gaming-highlights for me this year

xav · Post by **xav** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:50 am 0

I was thinking about the balance board at the weekend, and had an interesting thought about a game mechanic that almost certainly won't get implemented:

When a Wii-only Zelda is released, how about a canoeing section that requires you to sit on the balance board, and "paddle" with the remote. It would know which side of the canoe you're paddling on, and would steer accordingly. All the usual canoeing tricks of paddling backwards, or holding the paddle in the water on one side to make a sharper turn could also work.

Just don't try an eskimo roll!

Of course it's unlikely that this would make it into a Zelda game, except possibly as an optional way to control it if you've got a balance board. But perhaps as a stand-alone game. How about Wii Sports Extreme - snowboarding, skate boarding and canoeing in one balance-board using package.

Tepic · Post by **Tepic** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:04 am 0

I will be getting a Wii on Friday as long as they aren't all sold out again! I can't decide between RE 4 Wii and Zelda. Or should I think about something else?