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Samus wrote:
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If you can stretch to a second remote with Wii Play I'd recommend doing so
That was the plan. The 4 year old is getting excited at the videos of the fishing game!
2 player Table Tennis on Wii Play is a wonderful test of skill, nerves and reaction, everybody spend some time with it if you haven't already, excellent fun. Totally different from the single player experience where you can't affect the direction of the shots.
The ones that spring to mind - and it ain't all of them - are the fishing which would be great for a four year old, Table Tennis which is great, laser hockey which has staying power if two players 'get' it, a knitted cow racing game which can get quite competetive and a variation on the tank games from Atari 2600 Combat which does alas requiretwo nunchuks for two player, which is an extra fifteen quid you'll only otherwise see the benefit of on Wii Sports boxing and Mario Strikers Charged Football otherwise. Which leads me to my closing point. The Wii Play games might be simple but simple titles with the gameplay these listed few have would have us glued to screens for hours having great fun on the 2600, even if the graphics and controllers were worse in those days. A good time is a good time whatever era you are in though, and Wii play is worth the aforementioned fiver for that reason alone.

There's a couple of 'lightgun' games as well, and seeing as all such games are fundementally identical, they'll do for now, progeress in Wii Play being sent as mesages to your Wii after each session. Miis feature, too. Good to be using them in games, which doesn't always happen. I can see that lightgun style games will be getting rather a good look in, maybe becoming a major shooter genre because of the Wii. Umbrella Chronicles will set a standard, lapped up by those left salivating by the abortive third person efforts we've seen thus far. Then this indie developers' initiative Nintendo have begun will surely, surely see shooting gallery games of an Operation Wolf/Thunderbolt and Point Blank style return, there'll surely be a game where the gun looks like a Wiimote. And what utterly new ideas will be dreamt up in a lightgun style?

One wonders if a psychadelic, beastie infested, fixed viewpoint remote-pointing shooter with interesting combos and gameplay/tactic modifiers might come about as a result of this? Llamasoft made a Gridrunner that you control with a stylus. Moving the Remote in a circle would make a decent Tempest spinner and by that rationale the Wii controllers must clearly be asking for a good hard Mintering.

The Wii has been slow to truly realise its potential. Most Wii owners love theirs and simply wish they had more A, B and even C rank titles but the PS2 had plenty of good games coming out for it every year and it had a similarly successful time and a similarly shite-heavy lineup throughout its career, which is stil going. But maybe Nintendo have played an ace. They knew the novelty, class and form factor would carry the machine six months and the small niche of excellent or simply unique titles would extend that initial run to 12 and there's enough shit hot stuff due before 2008 to make this irrellevant anyway. And then even the worse developers will be up to speed, the Heatseekers and WWII FPSes of next year will look and control much better for sure.

I've a few games for mine, there's a couple more I want and one or two due in the late summer and autumn. I'm barely halfway thorugh Zelda, and my Mario Strikers/Excite Truck skills need honing which I'm glad to do. Mrs. Goatboy keeps beating my high scores on Wii Play/Sports and I'll have to buy her her own Wii when Animal Crossing comes out, you should have seen me try to get on my Gamecube two years ago! Then there's Red Steel to play through and Wario Ware for when mates are over. Plus the Virtual Console, which is a new game every three weeks thing for me I think and that's plenty of gaming. What quality drought?

Also the Wii is my 'comfy' browser for when I'm surfing not typing and there's more channels on the way. Then it's Xmas and the games written for a system people have actually got will be arriving in numbers. Rock on :D
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Samus wrote:
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If you can stretch to a second remote with Wii Play I'd recommend doing so
That was the plan. The 4 year old is getting excited at the videos of the fishing game!
2 player Table Tennis on Wii Play is a wonderful test of skill, nerves and reaction, everybody spend some time with it if you haven't already, excellent fun. Totally different from the single player experience where you can't affect the direction of the shots.
The ones that spring to mind - and it ain't all of them - are the fishing which would be great for a four year old, Table Tennis which is great, laser hockey which has staying power if two players 'get' it, a knitted cow racing game which can get quite competetive and a variation on the tank games from Atari 2600 Combat which does alas requiretwo nunchuks for two player, which is an extra fifteen quid you'll only otherwise see the benefit of on Wii Sports boxing and Mario Strikers Charged Football otherwise. Which leads me to my closing point. The Wii Play games might be simple but simple titles with the gameplay these listed few have would have us glued to screens for hours having great fun on the 2600, even if the graphics and controllers were worse in those days. A good time is a good time whatever era you are in though, and Wii play is worth the aforementioned fiver for that reason alone.

There's a couple of 'lightgun' games as well, and seeing as all such games are fundementally identical, they'll do for now, progeress in Wii Play being sent as mesages to your Wii after each session. Miis feature, too. Good to be using them in games, which doesn't always happen. I can see that lightgun style games will be getting rather a good look in, maybe becoming a major shooter genre because of the Wii. Umbrella Chronicles will set a standard, lapped up by those left salivating by the abortive third person efforts we've seen thus far. Then this indie developers' initiative Nintendo have begun will surely, surely see shooting gallery games of an Operation Wolf/Thunderbolt and Point Blank style return, there'll surely be a game where the gun looks like a Wiimote. And what utterly new ideas will be dreamt up in a lightgun style?

One wonders if a psychadelic, beastie infested, fixed viewpoint remote-pointing shooter with interesting combos and gameplay/tactic modifiers might come about as a result of this? Llamasoft made a Gridrunner that you control with a stylus. Moving the Remote in a circle would make a decent Tempest spinner and by that rationale the Wii controllers must clearly be asking for a good hard Mintering.

The Wii has been slow to truly realise its potential. Most Wii owners love theirs and simply wish they had more A, B and even C rank titles but the PS2 had plenty of good games coming out for it every year and it had a similarly successful time and a similarly shite-heavy lineup throughout its career, which is stil going. But maybe Nintendo have played an ace. They knew the novelty, class and form factor would carry the machine six months and the small niche of excellent or simply unique titles would extend that initial run to 12 and there's enough shit hot stuff due before 2008 to make this irrellevant anyway. And then even the worse developers will be up to speed, the Heatseekers and WWII FPSes of next year will look and control much better for sure.

I've a few games for mine, there's a couple more I want and one or two due in the late summer and autumn. I'm barely halfway thorugh Zelda, and my Mario Strikers/Excite Truck skills need honing which I'm glad to do. Mrs. Goatboy keeps beating my high scores on Wii Play/Sports and I'll have to buy her her own Wii when Animal Crossing comes out, you should have seen me try to get on my Gamecube two years ago! Then there's Red Steel to play through and Wario Ware for when mates are over. Plus the Virtual Console, which is a new game every three weeks thing for me I think and that's plenty of gaming. What quality drought?

Also the Wii is my 'comfy' browser for when I'm surfing not typing and there's more channels on the way. Then it's Xmas and the games written for a system people have actually got will be arriving in numbers. Rock on :D
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Reverend Goatboy wrote:a variation on the tank games from Atari 2600 Combat which does alas requiretwo nunchuks for two player
Just a little correction: you can play Tanks using just the remote (the D-Pad is used for steering), so you don't have to get a second nunchuck for a two-player game - but it does feel a lot better to play with the nunchuck.
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Fair comment. Remote-only mode is a dog to control, IMHO, though hardly a deal breaker for me.
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HGFB wrote:*Sigh* It's not easy is it? Here I am wanting to buy a legal copy of Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga for the GBA and all I can find are dodgy looking ebay auctions and dodgy looking Amazon sellers.

All that shite still available for the GBA and one of the best games I've played for the platform gets deleted. Where's the sense?
Very true.
I have my copy of the game with pride.

They should have done some sort of bundle of SSS and PiT. (after all, DS boxs have GBA cart spaces).

Or, well, after all, seeing as 256MB carts are now available for developers, it would be easy enough fitting both on a DS card. (assuming PiT took 128MB, which it probably didn't).
The Wii has been slow to truly realise its potential. Most Wii owners love theirs and simply wish they had more A, B and even C rank titles but the PS2 had plenty of good games coming out for it every year and it had a similarly successful time and a similarly shite-heavy lineup throughout its career, which is stil going. But maybe Nintendo have played an ace. They knew the novelty, class and form factor would carry the machine six months and the small niche of excellent or simply unique titles would extend that initial run to 12 and there's enough shit hot stuff due before 2008 to make this irrellevant anyway. And then even the worse developers will be up to speed, the Heatseekers and WWII FPSes of next year will look and control much better for sure.
Indeed.
The first year of any new platform...including the Ps2...is mostly shit.

The following years, and especially the last years, of any platform are normally the best.
That said, WiiSports and Zelda are probably the best launch combo of any platform in recent years.

I do see a lot more shit Wii games coming even in 2008 mind you.
You only have to look at Ubisofts criminal line-up. (Ubisoft is the new EA it seems :( ).
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A quickie Wii video question ........... I have a PAL Wii, if I was to use a component cable (modded if required) and plug it in a component to VGA converter, would it work fine on a VGA monitor?

Would the picture be comparable to RGB?

Would there be any restrictions at all in terms of using it, games I could play on it, etc?
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The Wii has been slow to truly realise its potential.
I object!

'The Wii' is a concept. 'A Wii' is an item. Both of 'em by themselves won't do jack.

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Post by disciple »

Just thinking about the WiiFit.

The board is with it's pressure sensing is quite a nifty device and it's not hard to come up with interesting game ideas for it, but I'm thinking the true potential might come when using the WiiFit board i conjunction with the controller, potentially you have something then tracking the feet and weight distribution in addition to the usual hand movement.

For example in Wii RE4 you turn by using the thumb stick on the nunchuck, it's not a particularly intuitive control but since the wiimote moves the reticule aiming there wasn't really any other way to do it. But combined with the WiiFit board we could have had a system where we actually lean left or right to initiate a turn. Of course we'd have to stand up to play which is a bit shit but it would be nice if stuff like that were made optional in future titles. :)

Lots of possibilites ahead. :D
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Jam session for the DS will rock.. mark my words..


i have some insider knowledge about the game.
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disciple wrote:...there wasn't really any other way to do it...
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Nintendodragon wrote:Jam session for the DS will rock.. mark my words..


i have some insider knowledge about the game.
Is that the one where you strum a guitar with the stylus? It's an interesting idea, but I don't know what's in it otherwise. Is it a game or something else?

The name 'jam session' also makes me think of a game where you make jam. That wouldn't be quite so interesting though.
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There was M-06 already in Japan:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/guitar/m+06-be ... 214765.php

Is Jam Session just the English translation or summat different?
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wow, m06 is great fun. i just checked it out on my r4 and within a minute i was happily strumming 'since you've been gone' by rainbow. this is hilarious. i'll definately pick up the US version once released.
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Goddammit, I went out for a walk and came home with a Wii and a copy of Zelda. :)
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IronGiant wrote:A quickie Wii video question ........... I have a PAL Wii, if I was to use a component cable (modded if required) and plug it in a component to VGA converter, would it work fine on a VGA monitor?

Would the picture be comparable to RGB?

Would there be any restrictions at all in terms of using it, games I could play on it, etc?
It should work fine so long as you have the Wii set to 4:3 display mode and you're using an old CRT monitor. I've had mixed results getting 16:9 console displays to work on CRTs and you'll be lucky to get anything at all out of TFT.
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