Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:19 pm 0

Samus wrote: How else can I put this, if you can't find the precision in games like Shooting Range (Wii Play) or Kororinpa, then it's up to you, not the controller, right?

One thing could be that you're trying to control the cursor with wide arm movements (loose and imprecise) instead of very small wrist movements (smooth and precise).

No offence chap but thats a tad patronising.

Yes I can move a cursor about the screen with the remote - when there is a cursor.

I've also tried the small wrist movements as well as the arms flailing plus everything in between.

As example of the imprecision I feel with the remote I find it utterly impossible to replicate the same golf swing twice in a row in the wii sports golf game. Another example is in twilight princess Link will swing the sword as I expect him too 5 times in a row - but then despite doing exactly the same movement again he does nothing at all.

Anyway I'm done the the discussion - I'm happy that people enjoy the experience of using the remote, unfortunately for me, I dont.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:26 pm 0

flookster wrote:As example of the imprecision I feel with the remote I find it utterly impossible to replicate the same golf swing twice in a row in the wii sports golf game.

That speaks more about its accuracy, doesn't it?

Another example is in twilight princess Link will swing the sword as I expect him too 5 times in a row - but then despite doing exactly the same movement again he does nothing at all.

Well, I'm sure you're not doing exactly the same / required movement, or then your Wiimote / Wii is broken. Technology just doesn't work that way.

Anyways, too bad you don't like golf or any of the other sports in Wii Sports, I think they're great and they also work great, but yeah, they are games and have their own rules, just like every other game available.

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:39 pm 0

flookster wrote:
Samus wrote: How else can I put this, if you can't find the precision in games like Shooting Range (Wii Play) or Kororinpa, then it's up to you, not the controller, right?

One thing could be that you're trying to control the cursor with wide arm movements (loose and imprecise) instead of very small wrist movements (smooth and precise).
No offence chap but thats a tad patronising. Yes I can move a cursor about the screen with the remote - when there is a cursor.

I've also tried the small wrist movements as well as the arms flailing plus everything in between.

As example of the imprecision I feel with the remote I find it utterly impossible to replicate the same golf swing twice in a row in the wii sports golf game. Another example is in twilight princess Link will swing the sword as I expect him too 5 times in a row - but then despite doing exactly the same movement again he does nothing at all.

Anyway I'm done the the discussion - I'm happy that people enjoy the experience of using the remote, unfortunately for me, I dont.

Something is wrong with your Wii, I'd recommend exchanging it. You say you've tried different lighting and tv situations so that rules that out, leaving a somewhat defective system as the likely culprit. A working Wii doesn't do what you've described, so I'd recommend a trip back to the store you bought it from, receipt in hand.

Also, you should be happy to know that Smash Bros. Brawl is going to be fully playable with the classic controller.

James

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:48 pm 0

Jamesac wrote:
Also, you should be happy to know that Smash Bros. Brawl is going to be fully playable with the classic controller.

James

As is Mario Kart.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:49 pm 0

Mario Kart without tilt now just seems wrong, imo :p

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Yeah, I have problems with WiiSports golf too, but only in terms of interface design. It feels awkward compared to the other WiiSports games.
But still, if I do the same action in any game, it registers the same thing. Every time.

The only "hardware" problem I have had with the wiimote, is sometimes I have to re-sycn it. (say, every few weeks randomly).

See, stuff like this is something that puzzles me. I've now played quite a bit of Gears of War on the 360, and while it's a nice game, I would've enjoyed the accuracy, speed and feel of the Wiimote now that I've adjusted to it properly. Take a look at Shooting Range to see what I mean, wait for round 2, this stuff is just not possible on a gamepad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YePLMI9 ... ed&search=

Really, I challenge everyone to look at this clip and say that you are not going to get the responsiveness and precision of a gamepad from the Wii controller. Honestly, I understand if most people have not learned to master the Wiimote yet, but after this, it should be clear to everyone.

Indeed.
Same for Wii Baseball.

Some stuff just isnt possible on normal controllers.

The only times I really see normal controllers winning is in "button intensive" games. When you have a lot of digitaly-triggered actions, mapping them to gestures is inferiour for responsiveness.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:11 pm 0

flookster wrote:[...] Imagine my surprise to find that I was getting excited about a game aimed at tween american girls based on a character I know nothing about. Hannah Montana: Music Jam looks like it will be one of the games of the year for me, on a Nintendo system anyway. I'm certainly looking forward to checking this out more than some of Nintys own wii games.
[...]
Anyone else interested?

In tween american girls?

*gets coat*

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:17 pm 0

Samus wrote:
Jamesac wrote:
Also, you should be happy to know that Smash Bros. Brawl is going to be fully playable with the classic controller.

James
As is Mario Kart.

I kinda knew about brawl - that MK will use it too is great news.

I hope Galaxy will use it too.

I've also ruled out a broken wii as I've had the same experience on another wii. Unless that one is broken too ofc.

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:18 pm 0

Next time you're in Maine, drop by my place and see how a Wii is supposed to play.

James

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:22 pm 0

Jamesac wrote:Next time you're in Maine, drop by my place and see how a Wii is supposed to play.

James

Deal.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:23 pm 0

flookster wrote:
I kinda knew about brawl - that MK will use it too is great news. I hope Galaxy will use it too.

It won't.

Also, same here, feel free to stop by the next time you're in Finland to see how it's supposed to work ;P

psychorob · Post by **psychorob** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:25 pm 0

disciple wrote:
Deckard wrote:[to the tune of We are the Champions]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=168471
Cripes, Wii is selling a quarter of a million units per week?

haha just noticed their Wii image header is of the old wii remote before the circle power button, speaker and 1 and 2 buttons.

Cheers
Rob

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:51 am 0

Samus wrote:
flookster wrote:
I kinda knew about brawl - that MK will use it too is great news. I hope Galaxy will use it too.
It won't.

Indeed.
Some of the mechcanics involve pointing at various things while running about.

The Caffeine Kid · Post by **The Caffeine Kid** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:56 am 0

Well... Big Brain Academy Wii Degree is quite fun if you like the DS version, and has some nice multiplayer modes in there.

It's not deep or involving but it's enjoyable and something for the family to all take part in and compete against each other on, which is good in our book.

Anyone else have it who has me on their friends list? We could trade results.

MegaZoid. · Post by **MegaZoid.** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:37 am 0

Just played big brain academy on the wii, bloody good it is to.
Simple to play but highly enjoyable

Tepic · Post by **Tepic** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:22 pm 0

I got my Wii yesterday. I've played for about 2 hours and my arms seriously ache! tell me it wears off!