Disabled spot sign that needs to be used everywhere.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:06 pm 0

grue wrote:

Now there's a handicapped chap. Imagine your arm staying erect all the time.

This film shows the plight of these handicapped people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPBxsUnszBo

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:08 pm 0

The Captain wrote:
stark wrote:
perhaps you ought to get back to your daily mail
No, The Daily Mail is usually associated in such arguments with a bigoted or intolerant point of view akin to the one expressed in your post, whereas you'd want The Guardian or The Independent for my kind of wishy-washy bleeding heart liberal attitude.

The Guardian is more suitable for making Millwall bricks than the Daily Mail.

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:13 pm 0

stark wrote: once again, the able bodied ,dare i say it, 'normal' kids have the attention of their teacher reduced because he/she now has to write 4 lesson plans.

There's your basics of the "problem": making teachers write lesson plans in the first place.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:13 pm 0

stark wrote:ooh ive got another one..

Inclusion in schools.

let stop it m'kay

having to teach 35 kids is bad enough,

when 4 are off the wall and on the autistic spectrum, another one is downs and another needs a feeding tube and can't communicate apart from saying 'ughhhgahg' it goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.

once again, the able bodied ,dare i say it, 'normal' kids have the attention of their teacher reduced because he/she now has to write 4 lesson plans.

Well you could force the more intelligent pupils to take care for the special needs pupils as they're often quite bored after they have finished with coursework much earlier than the classroom average.

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:35 pm 0

stark wrote:
phattslagg wrote:
Tael wrote:Parents' parking shits me off. Can't one parent shop for groceries alone whilst the other is at home taking care of the children?
Erm, not always, no.
not really the right argument. why should there be parents parking?

Because shopping with small children can be pretty stressful in itself, and people often park really badly, leaving you with very little space either side of your car in which to get the kids in and out.

Getting to and from the car also tends to be a lot slower with kids, as you have to exercise far more caution, so bad weather can do a lot to enhance the misery.

The fact is, that most supermarkets have adequate parking for their customers, so if they can afford to sacrifice 5 or 6 parking spaces to make parents some extra room, then it makes sense from a financial perspective for them to do so, as it may be the deciding factor in their favour.

So no, it's not as necessary as disabled parking, but the reasoning behind it is fair enough IMO.

stark · Post by **stark** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:43 pm 0

phattslagg.. except butchered by me to make a point wrote:
Because shopping can be pretty stressful in itself, and people often park really badly, leaving you with very little space either side of your car in which to get the shopping inout .

Getting to and from the car also tends to be a lot slower when you are parked further away, so bad weather can do a lot to enhance the misery.

The fact is, that most supermarkets have adequate parking for their customers, so they could increase the width of all spaces to make life easier for everyone, non just a favoured minority.

So no, it's not as necessary as disabled parking, but the reasoning behind it is fair enough IMO.

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:48 pm 0

Christ Stark your life must be incredibly easy if all you've got to worry about is walking an extra 30 foot from the back of the super market car park

Do you really mean all of this or are you just trying to troll?

kalmar · Post by **kalmar** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:50 pm 0

stark wrote:
phattslagg.. except butchered by me to make a point wrote:
Because shopping can be pretty stressful in itself, and people often park really badly, leaving you with very little space either side of your car in which to get the shopping inout .

Getting to and from the car also tends to be a lot slower when you are parked further away, so bad weather can do a lot to enhance the misery.

The fact is, that most supermarkets have adequate parking for their customers, so they could increase the width of all spaces to make life easier for everyone, non just a favoured minority.

So no, it's not as necessary as disabled parking, but the reasoning behind it is fair enough IMO.

Christ sake, stop being such a crybaby - I've never heard anything like it!

stark · Post by **stark** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:53 pm 0

kalmar wrote:
stark wrote:
phattslagg.. except butchered by me to make a point wrote:
Because shopping can be pretty stressful in itself, and people often park really badly, leaving you with very little space either side of your car in which to get the shopping inout .

Getting to and from the car also tends to be a lot slower when you are parked further away, so bad weather can do a lot to enhance the misery.

The fact is, that most supermarkets have adequate parking for their customers, so they could increase the width of all spaces to make life easier for everyone, non just a favoured minority.

So no, it's not as necessary as disabled parking, but the reasoning behind it is fair enough IMO.
Christ sake, stop being such a crybaby - I've never heard anything like it!

jesus how bloody blinkered do you have to be. its the same bloody argument that phattslagg used.

no its not a huge inconvenience for me.

christ i hate the nanny state

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:57 pm 0

As far as I can work out you feel privately held companies designing their car parks to make lives a little easier for those who have trouble shopping a manifestation of the "nanny state"?

That seems a bit muddled on a number of levels

stark · Post by **stark** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:01 pm 0

Purple Grapefruit · Post by **Purple Grapefruit** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:01 pm 0

Disabled minorities getting preferential
treatment fucks me right off!

Take babies for example, they contribute
nothing to society, yet they whinge their
heads off when we don't clean the
shit from their arse's. Cheeky fuckers!

chub · Post by **chub** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:06 pm 0

Purple Grapefruit wrote:Disabled minorities getting preferential
treatment fucks me right off!

Take babies for example, they contribute
nothing to society, yet they whinge their
heads off when we don't clean the
shit from their arse's. Cheeky fuckers!

Those kids in school too. They should be put to work down the mines!

kalmar · Post by **kalmar** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:25 pm 0

stark wrote: no its not a huge inconvenience for me.

Well, stop moaning then, because you're coming across as a bit of an [edited for reduced offence]

christ i hate the nanny state

Wot?

radio · Post by **radio** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:40 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:
The Captain wrote:a)You have the option of bending down to use a cashpoint, much as it might horrify you to do so. Surely a little bit of give and take might actually make the legislators sit up and take notice that human beings of differing levels of physical ability can exist side-by side, rather than be favoured one way or the other.
But what about tall people with a back problem, who can't bend down without painfully hurting their backs?

YES. We need cash points with the screen at 6' off the ground so that tall people don't have to bend down and hurt their backs. With a wheelchair ramp beside them in case the one at 2' is already being used by a midget.