The Apple thread

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:21 pm 0

The top-end iMac suddenly looks very attractive...however...I know Apple have always taken the piss when it comes to memory and hdd upgrades but Â£450 for an extra 2GB of RAM and Â£290 for another 500GB of hdd is fecking ridiculous!

Crucial and Lacie will still do plenty of business, I predict

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:26 pm 0

Yes. The 24" is officially within my budget.

Me = very happy.

Jimaroid · Post by **Jimaroid** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:28 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote: It's also used to signify high clockspeed desktops parts, both dual and quad
core.

Well, that's arse then.

slo-mo · Post by **slo-mo** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:28 pm 0

24" iMac --> ordered

perranegra · Post by **perranegra** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:31 pm 0

slo-mo wrote:24" iMac --> ordered

Ooooh you swine!

Must

Resist

Credit

Card

....

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:35 pm 0

slo-mo wrote:24" iMac --> ordered

What spec did you go for?

I am looking at a vanilla 24" with a 750 drive.

The decision now is:

- Buy now and have to buy leopard for 1200 SEK in a couple of months or so.
- Wait for Leopard's release date to be announced and then buy (get cheap upgrade - but how much is a cheap upgrade and how long until the date is announced?)
- Wait for Leopard

Decisions, decisions. What should I do?

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:37 pm 0

istr Apple offering free OS upgrades in the past if the machine was bought within a month or so (maybe more) of a new OS being launched?

I'm sure some of the more dedicated macwankers here will confirm/deny this...

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:38 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:
sponge wrote:Whine. I want a mac mini with mac pro specs. Whine.
Of course I don't want that. If I wanted that I'd buy that. Apple actually
deigning to use Intel's desktop parts isn't a crazy demand.

I reckon Jobs despises the Mini, it might as well not exist. I don't think he can handle anything that isn't completely integrated and clean. I doubt he's even very interested in the Mac Pro either. The iPhone however is just about the perfect example of his conceptual framework.

amanset · Post by **amanset** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:39 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:istr Apple offering free OS upgrades in the past if the machine was bought within a month or so (maybe more) of a new OS being launched?

I'm sure some of the more dedicated macwankers here will confirm/deny this...

I thought they were more a cheap upgrade (15 quid for P&P or something) than free free.

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:44 pm 0

I had a free upgrade to Tiger when I bought a mini for my gf 2 weeks before it came out. They weren't keen to give it though.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:56 pm 0

GeeZa wrote: I reckon Jobs despises the Mini, it might as well not exist. I don't think he can handle anything that isn't completely integrated and clean. I doubt he's even very interested in the Mac Pro either. The iPhone however is just about the perfect example of his conceptual framework.

Pretty much spot on, I reckon. Jobs is clearly a neat freak of epic proportions, and ruled by his OCD's. The reason everything on the Mac is so tidy and precision built is down to his deep psychological compulsions.

I'm sure he'd jettison any Apple products that aren't in a compact, all-in-one design if he could.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:56 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:
sponge wrote:Whine. I want a mac mini with mac pro specs. Whine.
Of course I don't want that. If I wanted that I'd buy that. Apple actually
deigning to use Intel's desktop parts isn't a crazy demand.
I reckon Jobs despises the Mini, it might as well not exist. I don't think he can handle anything that isn't completely integrated and clean. I doubt he's even very interested in the Mac Pro either. The iPhone however is just about the perfect example of his conceptual framework.

I agree. For Jobs form is everything. I think 'form follows function' should
be the overriding rule. In which case design a Mac around the best value
parts from Intel. It would not result in a Mini or AIO, but a NeXT style cube
or Sun pizza box is possible. Why Apple cannot, sorry why Apple will not do
so I do not know. 'Undermining brand values' or some similar reason may
be the excuse, I suspect that there are many engineers working for Apple
who would like to design a desktop with the very good value Q6600 in it.

slo-mo · Post by **slo-mo** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:02 pm 0

amanset wrote:
slo-mo wrote:24" iMac --> ordered
What spec did you go for?

I am looking at a vanilla 24" with a 750 drive.

That is exactly what I ordered (will upgrade the RAM myself). I tried adding a wireless keyboard, but it put the dilivery time up from a 5 days to 3-5 weeks.

amanset wrote:
The decision now is:

- Buy now and have to buy leopard for 1200 SEK in a couple of months or so.
- Wait for Leopard's release date to be announced and then buy (get cheap upgrade - but how much is a cheap upgrade and how long until the date is announced?)
- Wait for Leopard

Decisions, decisions. What should I do?

Get it now (obviously).

pogo · Post by **pogo** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:09 pm 0

Advert:

http://www.apple.com/imac/ads/

They look incredible from all directions to me, shame I can't justify replacing my current 24" with a new one. I imagine Apple will get a lot of free product placement with this.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:35 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:...I'm sure he'd jettison any Apple products that aren't in a compact, all-in-one design if he could.

I think so too. If they could produce a wafer-thin piece of glass with smooth rounded edges that ran OSX I think Jobs would internally combust in ecstasy. The way he was talking today about the new iMac now being attractive to 'Pros' you can almost see his mind working over-time on this.

Kemper_Boyd wrote:...It would not result in a Mini or AIO, but a NeXT style cube or Sun pizza box is possible. Why Apple cannot, sorry why Apple will not do so I do not know. 'Undermining brand values' or some similar reason may be the excuse...

I am pretty much certain that internally these sorts of machines have been designed and presented several times. I would imagine that the Mini was the result of (almost) constant nagging at which point Jobs finally buckled. He has subsequently pretty much refused to acknowledge its existence. So you have a self-fulfilling prophecy in operation that is designed to prove Jobs right that the Mini was a silly Apple product.

At the moment I would have to say that the new iMacs look absolutely gorgeous. Significantly nicer than the older ones and they were very nice too. Pretty close to the perfect desktop for someone like me. Anyone got any comment on the ATI card on the 24"?