The Apple thread

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:50 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:If they could produce a wafer-thin piece of glass with smooth rounded edges that ran OSX I think Jobs would internally combust in ecstasy.

yeah

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:26 pm 0

Fuseball · Post by **Fuseball** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:51 pm 0

I know I'm in the minority, but that black screen edging looks a bit PC-World 'lifestyle' PC monitor to me. I expect I'll see one in the flesh and be wowed by it, but so far it aint doing it for me.

Keyboard looks tremendous though.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:01 am 0

iMac pictures.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/apples-n ... -hands-on/

Fuseball · Post by **Fuseball** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:16 am 0

Can't quite justify a new iMac just yet (laptop upgrade first), so I'm gonna treat myself to one of those shiny new keyboards (to replace my current biscuit crumb infested one).

Quick question. Do I need to get a standard English keyboard or an English (International) one?

Post by **RiK** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:35 am 0

Fuseball wrote:I know I'm in the minority, but that black screen edging looks a bit PC-World 'lifestyle' PC monitor to me.

Yeah, definitely not the best decision imho. I would have much preferred them keep the same look as the Cinema displays around the screen edge.

Still, they do look ace but not for me, as I just can't get my head around the all-in-one idea, and the fact if I want to upgrade my machine I'm effectively junking a perfectly good monitor.

Having resigned myself to the fact that I'm never going to get any sense out of Apple over my fuxxored G5 it looks like I'll shortly be investing in a new Mac Pro. 'course, knowing my luck, the moment I do that they'll come up with a spangly upgrade to them too!

Nothing on the horizon Pro-wise on the rumours sites though so I'll prolly go for it asap (just about scraped together the Â£Â£ now..).

Post by **RiK** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:46 am 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:iMac pictures.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/apples-n ... -hands-on/

Definitely not liking the look of the glossy screen. Note how in nearly all of those photos there are nasty reflections which would suggest it's going to be horrible in anything other than a darkened room.

On my cinema display the total lack of any reflection whatsoever is one of the things I love about it.

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:43 am 0

I really don't get the whole "shiny screen" thing. Screens are supposed to show what's on them. If they are shiny they are showing reflections of crap and not what's on them. So I don't see how shiny screens can in fact be good at all but somehow they have become fashionable.

Just goes to show that fashion is stupid I suppose.

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:53 am 0

Fuseball wrote:Can't quite justify a new iMac just yet (laptop upgrade first), so I'm gonna treat myself to one of those shiny new keyboards (to replace my current biscuit crumb infested one).

Quick question. Do I need to get a standard English keyboard or an English (International) one?

Doesn't anyone actually care about keyboards any more? Do people really prefer shiny chiclet keyboards to proper keys? I love my model M and I think it's a great shame that it is becoming increasingly hard to find any kind of a decent keyboard at all these days, and now people are waxing lyrical over something that's more like a Speccy keyboard than even the worst PC Wrold cheapo effort?

I don't get it. Is thin and shiny now better than actually comfortable and good?

tentaclesex · Post by **tentaclesex** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:54 am 0

It's different. Shiny screens can be more visible when there's a lot of light (like if you're in the sun), because while you do see a reflection, the screen doesn't get washed out with diffuse glare like a dull screen does.

In ideal lighting conditions glossy screens look far better. Non-glossy finishes dull the output, so things don't look as vibrant.

If you spend some time with a glossy screen you might find that it's not as bad as bad as you imagine.

Foozwah · Post by **Foozwah** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:57 am 0

Yak wrote:Doesn't anyone actually care about keyboards any more? Do people really prefer shiny chiclet keyboards to proper keys? I love my model M and I think it's a great shame that it is becoming increasingly hard to find any kind of a decent keyboard at all these days, and now people are waxing lyrical over something that's more like a Speccy keyboard than even the worst PC Wrold cheapo effort?

I don't get it. Is thin and shiny now better than actually comfortable and good?

Oh good - it's not just me then.

I was going to get a MacBook a while back, but I just found this different keyboard style... well yes, reminiscent of a Spectrum.

Compared with the decent MacBook Pro keyboard, it's a bit like, "Well if you want a grown-up's keyboard, you're going to have to pay..."

So given my limited budget, I just decided to buy an old, second hand Powerbook instead.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:13 am 0

tentaclesex wrote:In ideal lighting conditions glossy screens look far better. Non-glossy finishes dull the output, so things don't look as vibrant.

Yeah, that's spot-on with my experience.

But in the sunlight, or with poorly angled lighting, a non-glossy LCD screen won't reflect lots of stuff off of them.

The trade-off is, a screen that has a more vibrant image, but reflects stuff easily, versus a duller image that hardly reflects much at all.

Not sure if Apple will offer glossy and non-glossy versions. Dell does that with their laptop models (but not their external LCD's yet, unless they recently changed that - those are all non-glossy).

Stone · Post by **Stone** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:35 am 0

Is that going to be an external Macbook keyboard, then? As in, shite?

I miss my Model M

Still need to sort out a new controller for him, then I guess it's eBay for the poor blighter...

Stone

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:38 am 0

Pragmatically speaking: these glass screens are *much* easier to clean/dust without fucking up your display. That's a very good thing.

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:46 am 0

Yak wrote:Doesn't anyone actually care about keyboards any more? Do people really prefer shiny chiclet keyboards to proper keys? I love my model M and I think it's a great shame that it is becoming increasingly hard to find any kind of a decent keyboard at all these days, and now people are waxing lyrical over something that's more like a Speccy keyboard than even the worst PC Wrold cheapo effort?

I don't get it. Is thin and shiny now better than actually comfortable and good?

You're in the world of personal preference here rather than "good" or "bad". I've been surprised to find that the mac book keyboard has proven to be my favourite of all the ones I have here.

To be fair I've never been keen on the full size apple keyboards but I am surprised I like it a lot more than the macbook pro keyboard.

Anyway, horses for courses innit