Xbox 360 Elite question

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:39 am 0

Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:I wonder if there'll be another price cut before Christmas...

I doubt it - unless Sony really pull something out of the bag. Like some games...

Cheers

Bubba

Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:08 am 0

Bubba wrote:
disciple wrote:...Bioshock...
Is much better on the 360 than on the PC by the way PC loading times are horrible, 3 or 4 times that of the 360 and not that much prettier. In the demo at least...

The replacement under warranty with a 65nm thing was a bit of a joke really. However I think it's safe to assume that MS will have stopped production of the 90nm 360 chips already, so future motherboards will be the 65nm versions. Return your console in 6 months and you'll get a 65nm version back.

I'm hoping that when / if (and i'm guessing it'll be a matter of when) my newer 360 goes tits up (bought easter 2007, manufactured summer 2006) it'll get replaced with one of those HDMI premiums, hopefully with the 65nm chips and a quieter dvd drive

I appreciate what you mean about the noise though, it makes a racket! Luckily it's rarely an issue for me as the TV (mostly) drowns it out.

Cheers

Bubba

Interesting point about getting swap outs of better 65nm 360s when yours fails, surely thought the 65nm machines will NOT be getting RRoD ad infinitum so your replacement swap out will be a repaired original "toaster" as it is now 99/100 times no

Anyway the 360's perceived cheapness for me is due to that nasty DVDrom drive, seriously embarassing switching on a 360 next to a near silent PS3 or a Wii in this house. The 360 Elite it would seam is hardly any different noise wise, this has got to be a joke right?.

Conclusions: The Elite is a bit quieter*, uses slightly less power but does not sport the 65nm die. We have come to this conclusion for the following reasons. The power consumption is basically unchanged, the heat output is unchanged if this were the 65nm die it fails to address either of the items it was intended to improve.

*1Db quieter on average

Full review by Llamma final part here

Will the 360 Elite have the facility to allow me to play media files in Divx/Xvid from the internal HD to keep the thing quiet for movie watching? It's such a shame if not because the zoom options and colourspace conversion on the 360 is excellent on the whole and 350 quid for something that sounds as noisy as a normal 360 playing DVDs is not my cup of tea

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:41 am 0

XVid support is *supposedly* coming in the fall update - you would stream them off of external media or Connect.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:01 am 0

So where is the best place to pick one up first thing Friday morning ?
Are the Elites likely to sell out ? (would have thought not as its primarily new customers to the 360)
Are any supermarkets stocking them ?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:46 pm 0

I have a question. If I use a memory card to transfer my saves over to an Elite and just redownload my XBLA games will I need to be connected to live to play them (As if I'd done the disk to disk transfer)

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:49 pm 0

I note Woolworths are selling them online for 299 and you can collect from a store - will ring my local Woolworths shop them this evening when get home to see what their normal store price is and if they are aware of this scheme. Seems a bit of a price fix that everyone else store wise is 329.99

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:50 pm 0

Deckard wrote:Seems a bit of a price fix that everyone else store wise is 329.99

Â£329 is the old price before the price drop. I'm going to wait until next week before splurging so the prices settle down. Hopefully places will stop selling the Premium for Â£275 then as well.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:56 pm 0

HGFB wrote:I have a question. If I use a memory card to transfer my saves over to an Elite and just redownload my XBLA games will I need to be connected to live to play them (As if I'd done the disk to disk transfer)

Yes. When you buy an xbox live game the profile you used to download it can play it on any box (while connected to live), and any other profiles on the xbox you originally downloaded it on can also play the game irrespective of live connection status.

I *think* that after transferring you could use your 120gb hard drive with your old 360 and still play games offline - it's only moving the hard drive to a new box which causes live to be required.

Cheers

Bubba

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:03 pm 0

I'm just trying to make things a bit easier.

If I use the drive copy cable to transfer stuff over I'll lose the ability to play XBLA games I already own offline.

If just redownload them on the new harddisk instead will I be able to play offline?

I'm guessing that anything new I buy will be tied to the new box and won't have that problem. Just the older stuff.

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:05 pm 0

HGFB wrote:I'm just trying to make things a bit easier.

If I use the drive copy cable to transfer stuff over I'll lose the ability to play XBLA games I already own offline.

Correct.

HGFB wrote:If just redownload them on the new harddisk instead will I be able to play offline?

Correct. (maybe)

HGFB wrote:I'm guessing that anything new I buy will be tied to the new box and won't have that problem. Just the older stuff.

Correct.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:44 am 0

Right got two reserved for collection at 8.30 tomorrow - they only had 2 in as of now and dont think they are getting any more (Wooloworths). Will I need a wifi adaptor to hook in to my airport express and does the 360 have a web browser similar to the Wii one ?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:45 am 0

It doesn't have built in wifi and there's no web browser.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:57 am 0

Conclusions: The Elite is a bit quieter*, uses slightly less power but does not sport the 65nm die. We have come to this conclusion for the following reasons. The power consumption is basically unchanged, the heat output is unchanged if this were the 65nm die it fails to address either of the items it was intended to improve.

Some people really haven't got the slightest clue about what really drives this business, do they? Any heat and power improvements are mere gravy. The reason for doing a shrink is that it reduces the cost of the chips by a third in the short term and more like two thirds in the medium.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:57 am 0

Can you play US games on a PAL console (and does the online element work for those games)?

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:07 am 0

bcass wrote:Can you play US games on a PAL console (and does the online element work for those games)?

Yes\No to the first and Yes to the second.

As the 360's region locking is on a per title basis it is very up in the air. Some are, some arent.

Play Asias got a decent page on whats region-free.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-fc-49-en.html

A more comprehensive one here:

http://egamia.com/wiki/Region_Free_Xbox_360_Games