Xbox 360 Elite question

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teamonkey wrote:
HGFB wrote:Don't the new ones have the new heatsink then?
The Elites and HDMI Premium/Pros do, yeah. 3-year warranty in any case.
Nice. Glad I'm upgrading then :)
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There we go. That was always going to be the most obvious likely outward sign of the new chipset; a smaller PSU.
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But what about the drives? The damned DVDrom drives on the 360s drive you nuts way too loud. IF they are getting drives as quiet as the Wii or PS3 then I would go for a Pro (saves me buying BioShock anyway ;) ) otherwise stick with what I've got, don't play games often enough to burn out my 360 luckily.
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silent_unicorn wrote:But what about the drives?
The Pro and Elite have new drives too. :)
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teamonkey wrote:
silent_unicorn wrote:But what about the drives?
The Pro and Elite have new drives too. :)
But a couple of websites have reported something like only 1db difference in noise levels between Elite and original 360 on full pelt (ie playing games). Is it possible the early ones did not get a new drive?

Other than that my 360 has been reliable as hell over the 18 months I've had it so might just wait for the inevitable some time in 2008 and get a replacement at the time :)
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silent_unicorn wrote:But a couple of websites have reported something like only 1db difference in noise levels between Elite and original 360 on full pelt (ie playing games). Is it possible the early ones did not get a new drive?
1dB is a noise reduction of about 20% isn't it?
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Just giving a figure of 'reduced by 1dB' is meaningless because it's a relative scale.
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Seems the first wave of the Falcon chipset will have a cooler CPU but not a cooler GPU.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/23/takah ... this-year/

Another iteration to wait for!
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Deckard wrote:I wont say if it craps out - When it craps out I will get a new chipset one courtesy of MS so not that bothered about the current model's flaws. Also fairly desperate for some twitch action as top dog on Charlie's Bullet Candy and fancy some Robotron, GW and SG action :)
This isn't aimed squarely at you, honest, but the complacency being demonstrated by gamers is really depressing. By purchasing this defective equipment you're effectively sending a message to MS saying, "it's OK, we'll buy any crap that you're trying to shift, even if we're fully fucking aware that it doesn't work properly."

Honestly I think it's beyond pathetic that people haven't shown some self discipline and restraint, and just boycotted this console until MS can get a working model out the door. If the gaming community had grown some balls and just flat out rejected the hardware and software when these issues became apparent, you can guarantee that MS would've fixed the hardware problems by now. There's no better way of getting the message across than reducing sales to an absolute trickle. But the community has proved itself to be weak beyond belief, and at this point deserves everything it gets from now on, and for what? A few achievement points and some shiny FPS's. Well fucking done, team.

In other hardware recall news, MS can't make steering wheels either:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/no-joke/micros ... 292551.php

Fucking ridiculous.
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I have waited fucking ages already - let no MS fanboy ( and I dont mean Sickboy obviously) ever moan about Apple hardware again .... you have been warned (growl)
Now with a new Mac Mini Pro so dont judge me !
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Rod_S wrote:This isn't aimed squarely at you, honest, but the complacency being demonstrated by gamers is really depressing. By purchasing this defective equipment you're effectively sending a message to MS saying, "it's OK, we'll buy any crap that you're trying to shift, even if we're fully fucking aware that it doesn't work properly."
I take it you won't be getting the new Microsoft Sidewinder mouse? :)

I'd feel the same way about the 360 if Microsoft weren't replacing them for free. As it is it's just an inconvenience when it breaks, nothing to get worked up about. It breaks and you get a brand new more reliable one. I think they get the message about it not being acceptable as it's costing them millions. What would be more unacceptable is if they had just said "sod you!" to those who had a broken box; IMO they've handled it well.

Anyway, what with the extended warranty and the price drop, this is the time to buy.
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teamonkey wrote:As it is it's just an inconvenience when it breaks, nothing to get worked up about.
OK, let's see how many people agree with that when their console craps out on the eve of Halo III being launched, and they have to wait 4+ weeks to get it repaired.
I have waited fucking ages already
I know, so have I, it just feels wrong to me to be spending money on something I know is broken. And who has the time to dick around with parcelling it back up, waiting for couriers, all that agro? I don't.
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What's broken? :) Sorry. Can't be arsed to read through...

I'm lucky because I got a free Elite and it's purely a convenience thing - freeing up the component input means I can have both 360 and Wii jacked in at the same time. :D
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Rod_S wrote:OK, let's see how many people agree with that when their console craps out on the eve of Halo III being launched, and they have to wait 4+ weeks to get it repaired.
The risk makes it more exciting. :D
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teamonkey wrote:1dB is a noise reduction of about 20% isn't it?
Just over 12%
6dB is a doubling / halfing although it takes about 10dB for a perceived
doubling / halfing.
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