Xbox 360 Elite question

starshipcommand · Post by **starshipcommand** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:06 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:OK, let's see how many people agree with that when their console craps out on the eve of Halo III being launched, and they have to wait 4+ weeks to get it repaired.

or when it craps out three years and one day after they bought it.

I'm amazed they released the X360 with that crappy GPU heatsink and almost no room for cooling it. Anyone who's ever built a PC could've told them it was going to overheat.

I'm considering two options - buying a cheap one off eBay and fixing the cooling myself, or waiting 'til I'm sure I can get a new one where they've done the job properly.

Dio wrote:Just giving a figure of 'reduced by 1dB' is meaningless because it's a relative scale.

But it is relative, the new ones are 1dB quieter relative to the old consoles.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:11 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:What's broken? Sorry. Can't be arsed to read through...

I'm lucky because I got a free Elite and it's purely a convenience thing - freeing up the component input means I can have both 360 and Wii jacked in at the same time.

You and me baby - got my thor hdmi/optical audio splitter now so everything is on one AV channel on my Bravia bar the Wii thru component. Waiting for some hardware competency from MS has driven me nuts already so getting one tomorrow and if I have to wait a month at some later point when they finally get round to sorting this whole debacle out then so be it.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:20 pm 0

rowan wrote:
teamonkey wrote:1dB is a noise reduction of about 20% isn't it?
Just over 12%
6dB is a doubling / halfing although it takes about 10dB for a perceived
doubling / halfing.

You're talking about output power though. dB are all about perceived noise. It's meaningless without the initial figure. 121dB to 120dB is a very small change; 10dB to 9dB is a large one.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:40 pm 0

I think the general concensus is that the noise difference is ~ fuck all.

Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:24 am 0

Dio wrote:
rowan wrote:
teamonkey wrote:1dB is a noise reduction of about 20% isn't it?
Just over 12%
6dB is a doubling / halfing although it takes about 10dB for a perceived
doubling / halfing.
You're talking about output power though. dB are all about perceived noise. It's meaningless without the initial figure. 121dB to 120dB is a very small change; 10dB to 9dB is a large one.

I think it was 59db to 60db for the exact figures from memory [for the original 360], so yeh about 1.5% in number terms relative to each other, not sure if you could notice a drop from say 59db to 58db in reality.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:25 am 0

Two final questions before I nip down to Woolworths in a few hours time: can I use the network cable from my original XBox on the 360? Also, does the package come with an RGB scart cable?

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:25 am 0

silent_unicorn wrote:I think it was 59db to 60db for the exact figures from memory [for the original 360], so yeh about 1.5% in number terms relative to each other, not sure if you could notice a drop from say 59db to 58db in reality.

60dB? That must have been at about an inch from the thing. Although I dunno, it is pretty loud

.

If it was very close, you could get that much difference by just pointing the mic slightly differently.

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:19 am 0

The woolies bundle I posted earlier is active - put a 360 and Bioshock in your basket and Bioshock shows up as Â£0. No idea whether it's the Pro or Premium version though.

stark · Post by **stark** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:46 am 0

teamonkey wrote:The woolies bundle I posted earlier is active - put a 360 and Bioshock in your basket and Bioshock shows up as Â£0. No idea whether it's the Pro or Premium version though.

doesn't seem to be doing it now though

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:48 am 0

bcass wrote:Two final questions before I nip down to Woolworths in a few hours time: can I use the network cable from my original XBox on the 360? Also, does the package come with an RGB scart cable?

Yes you can use any network cable, crossover or regular. And no, it doesn't come with an RGB scart cable, only component / composite and scart adapter.

Cheers

Bubba

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:23 am 0

stark wrote:doesn't seem to be doing it now though

It looks like they've only got the Steel Book version left in stock, and that doesn't count. I think. Or they may have just removed the offer.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:55 am 0

chub · Post by **chub** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:09 pm 0

You need a black HD-DVD drive now.

Kamineko · Post by **Kamineko** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:11 pm 0

The black pad has a silver bottom? Noo!

starshipcommand · Post by **starshipcommand** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:15 pm 0

I think I'll give up on trying to get an X360 from eBay-

Â£152 for a faulty one with no hard drive??? Some people are nuts...