Leaderboard Bug? (or: I've lost WiredWorm!)
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Bounty Bob
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I've also experienced this problem. I know that I've got at least 4 friends in the leaderboards but I've never seen more than one at a time. It doesn't appear to show anyone who's offline. I noticed last night when I wanted to see how my mate got on after he said he was downloading it as I spoke to him. When I looked last night, I was only seeing myself on the friends leaderboard.
I've seen this problem in a couple of other games before. Hopefully it is something on the MS side and they can get it sorted.
I've seen this problem in a couple of other games before. Hopefully it is something on the MS side and they can get it sorted.
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Hello! First post and all.
Yes this is happening to me as well and it kind of mutes the loveliness of a highscore board.
I have four friends playing SG and only one is showing up when I filter to Friends.
This blasted bug was present on Marble Madness as well. You can see them in the dash.
Come on, somebody get this fixed!
Yes this is happening to me as well and it kind of mutes the loveliness of a highscore board.
I have four friends playing SG and only one is showing up when I filter to Friends.
This blasted bug was present on Marble Madness as well. You can see them in the dash.
Come on, somebody get this fixed!
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It's a type of horse don't you know.
Same here, I only see one (!) friend I can compare my score to in the in-game-leaderboard. Couple of days ago it were two friends, but now it is back to one. Seems like it depends on how good your own score is, iirc the moment I got past the second friend he disappeared from the leaderboard.
But when I only select Space Giraffe from the XBLA menu, but do not launch it and choose "View friends leaderboard" instead, I can see all 7 friends of mine. Downside of that: I'm not really in the game (obviously) and the friends are ranked only from place one down to place seven, rather than listed with the "real" position they have in the overall-Leaderboard.
I really do think that this issue needs to be adressed.
It's a score shooter after all (and a DAMN good one, I'd like to add), and as much as I like to compare my scores to the other maniacs out there, I prefer comparing to my friends even more - without having to quit the game every time I want to check.
But when I only select Space Giraffe from the XBLA menu, but do not launch it and choose "View friends leaderboard" instead, I can see all 7 friends of mine. Downside of that: I'm not really in the game (obviously) and the friends are ranked only from place one down to place seven, rather than listed with the "real" position they have in the overall-Leaderboard.
I really do think that this issue needs to be adressed.
It's a score shooter after all (and a DAMN good one, I'd like to add), and as much as I like to compare my scores to the other maniacs out there, I prefer comparing to my friends even more - without having to quit the game every time I want to check.
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Ok, I checked, it's a bug .. so stupid and yet nor me nor MS saw it before.
"Nothing destructive" it's only that it's not getting all your friends list but
only a part of it.
I blame an unclear XDK documentation and I swear I am 99.9% sure
that when I tested that stuff I tested to what I believed it was the
max number of friends allowed ( and of course was working ).
.. it wasn't .. so all the friends above a certain number you won't see them.
As I said many times "the management of those (*&$&@#*$&*(#@$ LBs is FUCKING COMPLEX and all but intuitive", it took
me weeks of swearing and cries to understand how the fuck all that things works.
In this case I think you really can blame :
a) "wonderful documentation"
b) someone that "at the last moment" said "we want you change
the order of the filters in the LB" and forced me to change quite a
smeg-load of code in a hurry because "friends" has to appar before "overall".
Tested ? Yes, but with a wrong number in
Solution ? .. it would involve to change ONE line of code .. but I can't do it now
[edit] - to give you an idea of the shite, let's say it this way.
If all that thing would be a database with some kind of access via SQL it
would be "super nice and amazing".
In practice that is probably what it is BUT with an absolutely WEIRD
access system, quite a number of features looking like "oh, we forgot
about that so now your problem to work out some stuff", and an
interface that is quite a bit of crap and it's supposely intended for
"a designer" ( that knows nothing about code ) to change stuff
"on the fly" with some "exotic tool" leaving the poor coder a hell of a
nightmare to handle all that thing.
Put a bit of encrypted pseudo-XML there and there and some kind of
"even more weird stuff" I still did not understand how it works and what's
that for and you'll get a vague idea about those leaderboards.
Add also all a part of client-server communication stuff that requires
12 different steps or so just to arrive at the point to say "I am able to put
something in that LB" with all the associated error handling and asynchronous
event management that you have to do ..
If it still sounds not complex enough suffice I say "if it'd be a DB and
I'd have to do it via ASP it would be 20 times easier to be done".
Unfortunatelly ..it's not ..
"Nothing destructive" it's only that it's not getting all your friends list but
only a part of it.
I blame an unclear XDK documentation and I swear I am 99.9% sure
that when I tested that stuff I tested to what I believed it was the
max number of friends allowed ( and of course was working ).
.. it wasn't .. so all the friends above a certain number you won't see them.
As I said many times "the management of those (*&$&@#*$&*(#@$ LBs is FUCKING COMPLEX and all but intuitive", it took
me weeks of swearing and cries to understand how the fuck all that things works.
In this case I think you really can blame :
a) "wonderful documentation"
b) someone that "at the last moment" said "we want you change
the order of the filters in the LB" and forced me to change quite a
smeg-load of code in a hurry because "friends" has to appar before "overall".
Tested ? Yes, but with a wrong number in
Solution ? .. it would involve to change ONE line of code .. but I can't do it now
[edit] - to give you an idea of the shite, let's say it this way.
If all that thing would be a database with some kind of access via SQL it
would be "super nice and amazing".
In practice that is probably what it is BUT with an absolutely WEIRD
access system, quite a number of features looking like "oh, we forgot
about that so now your problem to work out some stuff", and an
interface that is quite a bit of crap and it's supposely intended for
"a designer" ( that knows nothing about code ) to change stuff
"on the fly" with some "exotic tool" leaving the poor coder a hell of a
nightmare to handle all that thing.
Put a bit of encrypted pseudo-XML there and there and some kind of
"even more weird stuff" I still did not understand how it works and what's
that for and you'll get a vague idea about those leaderboards.
Add also all a part of client-server communication stuff that requires
12 different steps or so just to arrive at the point to say "I am able to put
something in that LB" with all the associated error handling and asynchronous
event management that you have to do ..
If it still sounds not complex enough suffice I say "if it'd be a DB and
I'd have to do it via ASP it would be 20 times easier to be done".
Unfortunatelly ..it's not ..
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Bounty Bob
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Thanks for the feedback Giles. It is a real shame that this has happened but I know from my experience that shit happens. Usually if something of mine goes with a bug it's down to a last minute change that was rushed, so I can definitely sympathise. This explains why I now have more friends showing after a purge of about 30 on the list last night.
What is the maximum number of friends that can be handled correctly?
What is the maximum number of friends that can be handled correctly?
Thanks for the feedback. Can the problem be handled server-sided or is a client patch needed? In the latter one that could take ages due to the Microsoft certification process for every patch, but I only read that some time ago about these process.gilesgoat wrote:
Solution ? .. it would involve to change ONE line of code .. but I can't do it now
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It can't be fixed MS side, a client patch would be needed to fix a thing like that and this is a thingmembran wrote:Thanks for the feedback. Can the problem be handled server-sided or is a client patch needed? In the latter one that could take ages due to the Microsoft certification process for every patch, but I only read that some time ago about these process.gilesgoat wrote:
Solution ? .. it would involve to change ONE line of code .. but I can't do it now
a bit complex ...
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