Leaderboard Bug? (or: I've lost WiredWorm!)

sWozzi3 · Post by **sWozzi3** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:42 pm 0

Cant you release the demo for a few weeks and then release the game once youve had some feedback and time to fix this stuff

Post by **RiK** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:48 pm 0

Mayhem wrote:Having read through the last couple of pages... anyone care to explain to me the "jump bug"? If not publically, then please PM me... just curious about it.

I'm deliberately steering well clear of anywhere that mentions anything about exploits as I don't want to know. I'd rather not even have the possibility in my head as I think that would spoil the purity of the learning curve for me.

Post by **RiK** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:49 pm 0

Also, I think we as admins should really think carefully about just deleting any reference to exploits in publicly accessible parts of the forum.

I know it's out there already but if we can at least do out bit to stop it spreading we should.

ManicMiner · Post by **ManicMiner** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:55 pm 0

personally I think that ship has sailed, and I'd rather everyone KNEW that the monster scores on the boards weren't legit, but if the consensus is against me then I can respect that...

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:54 pm 0

ManicMiner wrote:personally I think that ship has sailed, and I'd rather everyone KNEW that the monster scores on the boards weren't legit, but if the consensus is against me then I can respect that...

I feel it more of a problem that some of those huge scores are legitimate but we cannot tell which ones.

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:57 pm 0

ManicMiner wrote:personally I think that ship has sailed, and I'd rather everyone KNEW that the monster scores on the boards weren't legit, but if the consensus is against me then I can respect that...

Didn't Giles confirm that the big score is actually legit?

Apparently if you look at the guys scores on other games he's got massive scores on them too.

TodaysForgotten · Post by **TodaysForgotten** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:58 pm 0

who else knows about it? and if so why arent scores sky-rocketing? I havent discussed this outside of this board.

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:59 pm 0

TodaysForgotten wrote:who else knows about it? and if so why arent scores sky-rocketing? I havent discussed this outside of this board.

I agree, if it were out there the scores would be much higher. The person who originally found it demonstrated it didn't take long to destroy what is up there.

I'm inclined to feel the scores are fine.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:11 pm 0

Misfit wrote:
TodaysForgotten wrote:who else knows about it? and if so why arent scores sky-rocketing? I havent discussed this outside of this board.
I agree, if it were out there the scores would be much higher. The person who originally found it demonstrated it didn't take long to destroy what is up there.
I'm inclined to feel the scores are fine.

The person who brought the jump bug to light had believed it to be an intentional game mechanic. Some other people here, and presumably elsewhere, apparently made the same assumption.

ManicMiner · Post by **ManicMiner** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:29 pm 0

Misfit wrote:
TodaysForgotten wrote:who else knows about it? and if so why arent scores sky-rocketing? I havent discussed this outside of this board.
I agree, if it were out there the scores would be much higher. The person who originally found it demonstrated it didn't take long to destroy what is up there.

I'm inclined to feel the scores are fine.

Have you seen the leaderboard today? Even being as generous as possible, I find it quite difficult to believe that someone can come from nowhere to post a score of 1.2 billion points, more than doubling Jeff's run, without earning some of the achievements that they've missed.

Most notably, they haven't actually completed the game yet! 1.2 Billion but can't complete level 100?

TodaysForgotten · Post by **TodaysForgotten** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:39 pm 0

whats the guys name? and manic, check your pm.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:41 pm 0

Misfit wrote:
ManicMiner wrote:personally I think that ship has sailed, and I'd rather everyone KNEW that the monster scores on the boards weren't legit, but if the consensus is against me then I can respect that...
Didn't Giles confirm that the big score is actually legit?

Apparently if you look at the guys scores on other games he's got massive scores on them too.

No it's definitely a score gained through the bug. It was just that the bug in question looks like a gameplay technique because the tutorial in a round about way appears to hint at it, the guy who got the score didn't even realise he was using a bug.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:43 pm 0

Harlequin wrote:
Misfit wrote:
TodaysForgotten wrote:who else knows about it? and if so why arent scores sky-rocketing? I havent discussed this outside of this board.
I agree, if it were out there the scores would be much higher. The person who originally found it demonstrated it didn't take long to destroy what is up there.
I'm inclined to feel the scores are fine.
The person who brought the jump bug to light had believed it to be an intentional game mechanic. Some other people here, and presumably elsewhere, apparently made the same assumption.

Yes that is the issue. I imagine a lot of people who are using it don't even realise they are cheating.

TodaysForgotten · Post by **TodaysForgotten** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:45 pm 0

disciple wrote:
Misfit wrote:
ManicMiner wrote:personally I think that ship has sailed, and I'd rather everyone KNEW that the monster scores on the boards weren't legit, but if the consensus is against me then I can respect that...
Didn't Giles confirm that the big score is actually legit?

Apparently if you look at the guys scores on other games he's got massive scores on them too.
No it's definitely a score gained through the bug. It was just that the bug in question looks like a gameplay technique because the tutorial in a round about way appears to hint at it, the guy who got the score didn't even realise he was using a bug.

I didnt and i didnt feel bad at all. I felt weird when people were questioning me after i mentioned what i do. I have no doubt i'll do damange in this game legitly once the boards and games are patched. All my other top 10 scores are tastey and only one score was embellished in order to beat a glitcher (heavy weapon single player)

ManicMiner · Post by **ManicMiner** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:47 pm 0

another good reason why I'd prefer it was known about... If everyone knows its a glitch, then they know not to do it, and then I can sneer at those who do without wondering if they did it in good faith, like Today'sForgotten did

I appreciate that people are keen not to upset Giles and Yak any further, this must be gutting for them, it really must, but this problem really does affect those of us who are gunning for the top of the leaderboard quite severely.