Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:25 pm 0

I've been playing through Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door on the GC and what swith says has huge resonance with me. There's a few moments that are rather good, and the art style and production is perfect, but in general the game's long winded, slowwww to a fault and really rather too simplistic in every way.

It's not bad all over, and I'm sure that for 8-10 year olds it must be fantastic, but I'm playing it because I'd heard it was a truly godlike game and it really isn't that good.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:31 pm 0

Dio wrote:I've been playing through Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door on the GC and what swith says has huge resonance with me. There's a few moments that are rather good, and the art style and production is perfect, but in general the game's long winded, slowwww to a fault and really rather too simplistic in every way.

It's not bad all over, and I'm sure that for 8-10 year olds it must be fantastic, but I'm playing it because I'd heard it was a truly godlike game and it really isn't that good.

Senior swith actually liked that one, if memory serves. From reading the posts, it seems that it's the new one on the Wii that he doesn't like.

I don't like the look of the "switch-to-3D" thing that I saw on the advert. But I haven't got a Wii yet, so I can't play it to be able to tell properly.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:24 pm 0

There is so much in Paper Mario that is wayyy beyond 8-10 year old material.
(allthough, 8 to 10 year olds arnt to be underestimated either...)

The whole spooky area "twist" near the end I thought was one of my top moments in gameing.

Wait until you play the game Swith just played and meet the young girl who was "Playing with her fairy".

On the other hand I did find Superstar Saga very funny too Tingle is a very different kind of funny and the game actually managed to make me feel dirty playing it I'm still going to play it some more though.

Well, true, I cant judge Tingle till I played it. Which i'm looking forward too.
But personaly I found Inteligent Systems games highly imaginative and funny and certainly not just for 8-10 year olds.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:57 pm 0

I agree much of the material in there is beyond that level.

It's just the gameplay that isn't - it moves like treacle, it's very repetitive and it's stuffed full of ludicrously long and unskippable cutscenes.

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:05 pm 0

Dio wrote:It's just the gameplay that isn't - it moves like treacle, it's very repetitive and it's stuffed full of ludicrously long and unskippable cutscenes.

Like just about every RPG ever made then

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:08 pm 0

Dunno. Last one I played was KOTOR and that seemed OK for it. Most of 'em I've seen let you really blitz through the cutscenes nowadays, but PM only lets you accelerate the text a bit, and the animation is usually hugely long-winded.

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:15 pm 0

I realise LoZ:Twilight Princess is neolithic news for all you cats, but the other half recently finished playing it* and her verdict: great, but not as great as Wind Waker. In particular "the music was a bit rubbish, cell-shaded Link was cuter, and the Deku Leaf in the Forest Haven was the best thing ever". She is of course never wrong.

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* Finishing a Zelda game for her literally involves completing every side quest and collecting every piece of heart. Would bring a tear to Mr. Miyamoto's eye.

Roobarb · Post by **Roobarb** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:17 pm 0

Dio wrote:Dunno. Last one I played was KOTOR and that seemed OK for it. Most of 'em I've seen let you really blitz through the cutscenes nowadays, but PM only lets you accelerate the text a bit, and the animation is usually hugely long-winded.

Fair enough. Can't say RPG's are my thing. I tried to like Paper Mario, but quite frankly i fell asleep.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:11 pm 0

UR MR GAY

It's all over the 'net, but a really juvenile, immature but hysterical thread here on the matter:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=190547

Oh my

RageMatrix · Post by **RageMatrix** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:25 pm 0

Dio wrote:I've been playing through Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door on the GC and what swith says has huge resonance with me. There's a few moments that are rather good, and the art style and production is perfect, but in general the game's long winded, slowwww to a fault and really rather too simplistic in every way.

It's not bad all over, and I'm sure that for 8-10 year olds it must be fantastic, but I'm playing it because I'd heard it was a truly godlike game and it really isn't that good.

LIES!

One of the most enjoyable videogames I've ever played. Its brilliant and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. And stupid. And ugly.

So there.

Oaf · Post by **Oaf** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:27 pm 0

RageMatrix wrote: One of the most enjoyable videogames I've ever played. Its brilliant and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. And stupid. And ugly.

So there.

You forgot "And smells"

Great game, could never beat the final boss tho.

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:32 pm 0

1000 year door was pretty good and gave me a chuckle. Superstar saga was pretty weak for me.

swith · Post by **swith** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:35 pm 0

aureole wrote:1000 year door was pretty good and gave me a chuckle. Superstar saga was pretty weak for me.

Yeah, its Super Star Saga and the DS sequel I thought were disappointing.

Come on though, there's got to be someone else here who's playing Super Paper Mario thats thinking it would be a much better game if Intelligent System's designers weren't under the impression that people play these games to read a load of their shitty stories and 'gags'. SPM may tout itself as having hours and hours of gameplay, but I'll wager 60% of that time is skipping dialogue.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:41 pm 0

I thought the plot and dialogue in SSS was much better than in SPM. It's pretty pedestrian stuff in SPM.

The visual design however is much better in SPM than SSS.

swith · Post by **swith** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:47 pm 0

Aye, agreed.

Mind you, while we're on about I.S. and their biblical text doc, the less said about Mazza Golf & Tennis on the GBA the better. Ace games, shit RPG that stops you playing the game. Both take about 20 minutes of dialogue skipping before you're actually having any fun.

Stop turning my games into RPGS, Intelligent Systems! It's just a fucking hugely transparent and cynical way for you to get more gaming time out of less assets.