The all new PS3 thread. (Bright, shiny and plays dvds well)

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:34 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:Well full software emulation was the plan, so I wonder if they've
given up. I'm not sure it's a big deal really, anyone with a large
number of PS2 games will already have one. Anyone who really
wants to play PS2 will be able to buy one very cheaply, and it's got
enough life in it that an even cheaper model isn't unthinkable.

Practically you're right. Though from a PR point of view it's bad, they're making them look like a company with zero foresight stumbling half stunned from one blunder to another.

Mele · Post by **Mele** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:38 pm 0

I'm looking forward to Eye of Judgement as well , more of a game that will be fun playing with the kids.
It sounds and looks a really bad idea but I've a sneaky feeling it will quite good.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:06 pm 0

gravy wrote:Practically you're right. Though from a PR point of view it's bad, they're making them look like a company with zero foresight stumbling half stunned from one blunder to another.

You reckon anybody actually cares? The shit doesn't stick - whether to the 360 for the shocking reliability or the PS3 for just being an endless cavalcade of comedic errors.

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:33 pm 0

Dio wrote:
gravy wrote:Practically you're right. Though from a PR point of view it's bad, they're making them look like a company with zero foresight stumbling half stunned from one blunder to another.
You reckon anybody actually cares? The shit doesn't stick - whether to the 360 for the shocking reliability or the PS3 for just being an endless cavalcade of comedic errors.

I think people do pay attention to this sort of thing if there's not a shedload of fun games on the system.

Couple of system exclusive crackers and it'll fade. Until then the names getting more and mired

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:37 pm 0

gravy wrote:More evidence that a cut down PS3 with no PS2 compatibility is imminent

http://kotaku.com/gaming/skubar/retaile ... 306294.php

We'll know soon

More evidence of the all-but-confirmed "low cost model" 40GB version of the PLAYSTATION 3 has popped up in a variety of locations, with Best Buy stock listings showing the new hard disk drive equipped model packed with a copy of Spider-man 3, the movie, on Blu-ray. It's unclear how that's an incentive.

Peet wrote:Can someone explain to me why Katamari is still relevant? It seems obvious Namco have no qualms turning it into another Tekken or Ridge Racer, thus shitting all over the point of the first game (to create something original). No wonder Keita Takahashi wanted out while he still could.

The same reason RR7 is still relevant in a way. There are some people who appreciate a good (somewhat) budget title. RR7 isn't everyones cup of tea but some people will swear by it. In the same way some of us are waiting for Beautifful Katamari with baited breath.

The difference between this and the other incarnations of Katamari is this is a game with a sligtly different style (new elements, new music) being released on a platform that could not otherwise play Katamari. Should you have to buy a PS2 to play Katamari? Should you have to buy a PSP to play whatever Katamari? It's fantastic it's being released for a new platform and introducing the beauty of Katamari to another group of gamers. It's not like the FIFA or Madden franchises which are released on every platform with a lick of paint, some music, some features removed (that will be put into future versions as "new features"), a couple of old features brought back and branded as NEW MADDEN.

If the designer is complaining because his creation is reaching new audiences that's just sour grapes.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:59 pm 0

Guru-Meditation wrote: If the designer is complaining because his creation is reaching new audiences that's just sour grapes.

Eh, what? He's stated that he made it in an attempt to say "See how easy it is to make something original? Stop it with the goddamn sequels, licences and rehashes already and dare to be creative!". And precisely because it was so different it turned into a cult hit, something which Namco don't seem to mind exploiting for an endless line of sequels* (on different platforms yes, but sequels nontheless), which goes completely against the original point. I'd be pretty fucking sour too.

* Or if you want to make it an exercise in creative thinking, "remakes". It doesn't matter what you call them though.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:54 pm 0

I do agree that the katamari sequels do fly in the face of the original intent, but if you sign over IP rights to your publisher then tough titty.

Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:21 pm 0

Just out of interest RE:Backwards compatability thing, how many people kept their PS1 consoles and how many used their PS2 to play them?

I kept my PS1 because it was chipped as I had quite a few NTSC games (I'm in the UK). If you have a chipped PS2 for foreign [versions of] games it puts you in the same boat and best to keep the chipped console if space permits I guess. But yeh TV units just aren't big enough for "one of everything" type gamers like me true!

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:26 pm 0

Peet wrote:"See how easy it is to make something original? Stop it with the goddamn sequels, licences and rehashes already and dare to be creative!".

After looking at his wiki page I'm not surprised he was desperate to get something new out there. Anyone who worked on a Dynasty Warriors game should be made to create something original to prove they can do something other than 20 hours of monotonous boring repetition.

Rhythm · Post by **Rhythm** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:51 am 0

Cheers for the new thread, H

As a single-console owner, I've got loads to be happy about this Chrimbo. Not only am I having a great laugh with all the PS2 stuff I've never been able to play, but the release lists over the next few weeks are looking great.

I've totted up my list and only found 2 real "must-haves" (COD4 and HL2:tob) a few "probables" (Assassin's Creed, Kane and Lynch, Uncharted) and a few "definite maybes" (skate, Ratchet & Clank, Simpsons, Brothers in Arms, NFS Prostreet). Plus there's PSN stuff like Echochrome and Everday Shooter to look forward to

As I said in the other thread, I couldn't really give a fuck if a game's exclusive or not - all I need to know is that it's a good game and that it plays well on the system I own. Whether other platform owners are experiencing an enhanced/degraded experience is of no consequence to me whatsoever :-)

juice · Post by **juice** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:25 am 0

Dio wrote:
gravy wrote:Practically you're right. Though from a PR point of view it's bad, they're making them look like a company with zero foresight stumbling half stunned from one blunder to another.
You reckon anybody actually cares? The shit doesn't stick - whether to the 360 for the shocking reliability or the PS3 for just being an endless cavalcade of comedic errors.

It does stick, but in a "stains left after washing" kinda way - and it'll be filtered through several layers of incomprehension at the retail end which will leave people even more confused - e.g.

"the xbox 360 can't play DVDs - you have to buy a DVD player separately, the PS3 can, but the new version is not compatible with all the available games".

I've been on the blunt end of retail Einsteins before, y'see.

It's also worth remembering that the red-ring fiasco caused a huge drop in Xbox 360 sales:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... =201200157

It's a strange situation at the minute: the Wii isn't directly competing with the other 2 consoles, and is selling bucketloads (though I'm seeing increasing numbers of people saying "We play Wii Sports and... that's it"). Microsoft are still recovering from the Red Ring and releasing too many variants of their machine and Sony are too expensive and cutting back on features. You have to wonder if MS and Sony are actually interested in what they're selling, this time around...

Peet · Post by **Peet** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:15 pm 0

So, guys, tell me something about PSN! I know there's Super Stardust HD and that dodgy hi-def GT demo. And I know SÃ¶ldner-X, Wipeout HD and (presumably) Little Big Planet will be released for it sometime next year. What else?

I'm thinking the PS3 has a slight edge in regular retail exclusives at the moment vs the 360-- Heavenly Sword, Folklore, White Knight Story, MGS4 (eventually) vs...uuh... Halo 3? XBLA seems to have the edge on PSN though, at least when it comes to stuff I can get RIGHT NOW.

Rhythm · Post by **Rhythm** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:55 pm 0

Everyday Shooter released soon, Peet :-)

DeanoC · Post by **DeanoC** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:01 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:Well full software emulation was the plan

Why do you assume that? I've never really seen much evidence thats true, at least about the GS.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:26 pm 0

Because it's cheaper. And more fun to try to code

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