Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

grue · Post by **grue** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:45 am 0

Ghostbiscuit wrote:*When* it's released over here?

Well, amazon says it's been out since April (but out of stock) and play.com say it will come out next March.

Alarm · Post by **Alarm** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:57 am 0

GeeZa wrote:
Samus wrote:PES Wii: http://streamingmovies.ign.com/wii/arti ... wmvlow.wmv
Wow, that's the most interesting Wii news in a long time. PES is an amazing series but it's getting tired and stale now. This is either going to *completely* revolutionise the game for the better for a be an utter and total disaster. There's just no way of knowing until it's played, although the one-twos looked easier, that's about it. Interesting stuff.

Aye, could be ace; could be a big bag of fail.

Ghostbiscuit · Post by **Ghostbiscuit** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:45 pm 0

grue wrote:
Ghostbiscuit wrote:*When* it's released over here?
Well, amazon says it's been out since April (but out of stock) and play.com say it will come out next March.

Ah, goody good. I thought the only way to play a Bleach game was to get on the import-train.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:57 am 0

Alarm wrote:
GeeZa wrote:
Samus wrote:PES Wii: http://streamingmovies.ign.com/wii/arti ... wmvlow.wmv
Wow, that's the most interesting Wii news in a long time. PES is an amazing series but it's getting tired and stale now. This is either going to *completely* revolutionise the game for the better for a be an utter and total disaster. There's just no way of knowing until it's played, although the one-twos looked easier, that's about it. Interesting stuff.
Aye, could be ace; could be a big bag of fail.

Mario Strikers proves arena team sports games can work well, despite the drawbacks of that title. A slower, more measured title with a bigger playing area and a fuckwad of pedigree, realism and the fact that everyone buys pro evo anyway - a Wii version with all the faff stripped out can't fail, really.

Online play, is there? I hope so.

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:34 am 0

Another SMG vid, this time it's an official trailer, spoilerific to the max, but my goodness is it sweet

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FQ9QVI

Oh and regarding Pes Wii, think about how well it could work in co-op play, player 1 (playmaker with free pointer passing) + player 2 ordering all sorts of different runs without the ball = WIN.

daniel thomas · Post by **daniel thomas** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:25 pm 0

That Pro Evolution video was just amazing. It was a thrill to watch. It's about time someone started using the Wii controllers for new ideas. The controller hasn't been treated as an improvement over the joypad, but a step backwards. So there are fewer buttons. So what? Come up with a new theory for game control.

Another point to consider. I'm an American, which means I have no idea what this whole soccer/football thing is all about. Remember the Simpson's parody? "Fast action, low scores, and ties"? Yeah, that's pretty much it. We find it harder to follow a non-contact sport that ends with a 1-0 score. American football? Not even close.

But here's my point. The PES video unveils the whole realm of strategy in the sport. I'm watching, and I can really appreciate the give-and-take of tactics and the battle for the field. Soccer suddenly looks to be a lot more competitive and aggressive than we Americans thought.

The Wii needs standout titles, especially standout sports games. EA just isn't gonna put in the effort. This game could really provide that breakout, not just for the console but for the sport itself.

I think the key about this game is that Konami is not merely re-mapping button controls to the Wiimote. They're using that controller to open up new ideas, and add new layers of depth and skill. It adds a new dimension to gameplay, and if this works (cross our fingers), I can't imagine ever going back to the old ways.

Thanks for posting that video. It's up on YouTube as well, and I blogged about it on Videogames of the Damned.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:30 am 0

Good post daniel. The biggest and most significant change that occured to me is the ability to control players off-the-ball. With old-PES you are at the mercy of the AI, and to be honest it's what has made the game stale and uninteresting over the past few iterations. Winning Eleven 6:FE was probably the last of the enjoyable versions. Now with this, the AI is less important because if you're quick with the controller you can direct your own players, creating space, take markers out, run into gaps, and effectively direct the pattern of play. It also looks like the passing is more precise because instead of using pass strength which is kinda ambiguous, you're now specifying the player to pass to. That's much more like real football (unless you're Sunderland). The only doubt from the vid is whether you can actually play long passes along the ground and what control you have over shooting. But the bottom line is that you're potentially looking at a much more varied and deep gameplay experience, both on defence and attack. Plus it might actually be *simpler*, something PES does need.

I think football games, and indeed most sporting games, a genre I tend to like, have become quite tedious. Nothing really different, no new ideas. If this scheme works, and the game is exciting and fun to play, it's going to be an absolute killer title. We'll see, if anyone can f*ck it up Konami can.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:11 am 0

Anyone seen the adverts for Britain's Brainiest Family over the weekend? Looks like Brain Training type games but with online leaderboards and the chance to win your kids' University fees! Nintendo kept that one quiet...

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:14 am 0

I think the key about this game is that Konami is not merely re-mapping button controls to the Wiimote. They're using that controller to open up new ideas, and add new layers of depth and skill. It adds a new dimension to gameplay, and if this works (cross our fingers), I can't imagine ever going back to the old ways.

Exactly.
The Wiimote has potentialy more "human input" possible, but only if used and designed for specificaly.
Button mapping and it always comes out inferior.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:44 pm 0

Metroid Prime 3 preview channel now available in the Wii shop.

The Caffeine Kid · Post by **The Caffeine Kid** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:07 pm 0

Yeah I saw that (wondered why my blue light was flashing again after only installing updates a couple of days ago) but haven't bothered downloading it (yet) as even if it's fab can't afford the game so would just annoy me. LOL

Plus I still haven't played Metroid Prime 1 or 2 yet.

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:08 pm 0

Interesting....Nintendo doing something useful with the Internets at last...didn't see my Wii flashing this morning so I'll have to have a look when I get home.

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:51 pm 0

Loaded, watched, yawned, deleted.

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:59 pm 0

Why is it that the batteries in my Wiimote run down even when it's not been used for a couple of months? I'm not using rechargeables.

bloid · Post by **bloid** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:55 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:Interesting....Nintendo doing something useful with the Internets at last...didn't see my Wii flashing this morning so I'll have to have a look when I get home.

It's six movies of boredom... Not even playable boredom