The Netbook Thread

Ely · Post by **Ely** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:06 pm 0

Dio wrote:Only a little bit. Not really much difference between being sat by the pool with a book or a PDA, is there?

Hardly a holiday in the sense that you code for your job though?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:09 pm 0

Ely wrote:Hardly a holiday in the sense that you code on the job though?

That'd be worse though.

zip accident · Post by **zip accident** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:14 pm 0

HGFB wrote:

Ely wrote:Hardly a holiday in the sense that you code on the job though?
That'd be worse though.

Luckily I wasn't drinking.

Ely · Post by **Ely** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:25 pm 0

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:27 pm 0

Ely wrote:
Dio wrote:Only a little bit. Not really much difference between being sat by the pool with a book or a PDA, is there?
Hardly a holiday in the sense that you code for your job though?

You do sound like my mrs

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I enjoy recreational coding, and in the last year or so with learning C++ properly, doing the Midnight port and working on the emulator I've proper rediscovered it again. There's a big difference to most of the stuff I do at work, which (although I enjoy my job) is stuff I have to do, not stuff I want to do. Also, I'm not really involved in bashing out code at work - it goes in phases, but generally the code I'm writing is tinkering rather than big software project stuff.

HGFB:

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HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:28 pm 0

Aw c'mon. It's obviously a joke.

Ely · Post by **Ely** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:00 pm 0

Dio wrote: I enjoy recreational coding, and in the last year or so with learning C++ properly, doing the Midnight port and working on the emulator I've proper rediscovered it again. There's a big difference to most of the stuff I do at work, which (although I enjoy my job) is stuff I have to do, not stuff I want to do. Also, I'm not really involved in bashing out code at work - it goes in phases, but generally the code I'm writing is tinkering rather than big software project stuff.

No that's fine mate, we each like to relax in our own ways

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:14 pm 0

I can see that bloody raised eyebrow from here

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oNyx · Post by **oNyx** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:11 pm 0

Firefox wrote:
Dio wrote:Well, I'm going to be holding on until just before I need it, hoping for a 10" model. Otherwise it probably will be worth looking at the linux options, because MSVC in an 800xwhatever window will be hard work .
Probably be about 48x48 pixels of editor window left after all the toolbars and sidebars are in...

With Ctrl+M (maximize editor toggle) it would be sorta usable.

The CPU speed should be sort of alright for the most part. However, a gig of RAM certainly won't hurt.

Of course using that as primary development platform would be pretty silly, but for a few changes here and there? Why not?

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:01 pm 0

Can't you get rid of those two ridiculous toolbars left and right?

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:39 pm 0

oNyx wrote:
The CPU speed should be sort of alright for the most part. However, a gig of RAM certainly won't hurt.

Don't forget that a gig of RAM is *all* you get with these. There's no HDD and, hence, no swap space configured by default. You could maybe set up swap on the SSD but I don't know how well it'd perform or what it'd to do the lifespan of the flash chips constantly reading and writing to them like that. If you've currently got a machine with a gig in it try turning swap off and see if you can do what you want to do.

oNyx · Post by **oNyx** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:44 pm 0

Dio wrote:Can't you get rid of those two ridiculous toolbars left and right?

Ye, you could drag em down to the status bar:

edit: Updated image. There was a small mistake... well, it's a fake screenshot, because my setup doesn't allow to run that resolution natively.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:03 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:There's no HDD and, hence, no swap space configured by default. You could maybe set up swap on the SSD but I don't know how well it'd perform or what it'd to do the lifespan of the flash chips constantly reading and writing to them like that.

Reading is not a problem it is the writes that are important to tune. Flash
friendly distributions disable things like timestamping reads, and reduce
the flushing of log files and similar regular writes. Swapping is probably
best disabled, if not disabled then writes should be multiples of a block size.
As long as the distribution is tuned for flash there shouldn't be a problem.

What you want to avoid is an OS that does lots of small random writes.
As well as ageing the flash drive it would perform quite badly, so there's
two good reasons to be careful.

Oh and use SLC rather than MLC flash if you can.

This article is worth reading if you want to see how SSDs will be implemented in the future.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... lash-flash

oNyx · Post by **oNyx** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:21 pm 0

http://winfuture.de/news,35104.html (german)

Base model 7.999 taiwan $ ~173â‚¬

Top model 13.888 taiwan $ ~300â‚¬

Neat-o.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:17 pm 0

I expect I'll be coding by alt-tabbing between a fullscreen editor and a fullscreen xterm. Like I do when I code on any platform.