Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:17 am 0

Mayhem wrote:But who's bought Halo 3 for the single player experience though?

I would - took my XBox onto live specificaly for Halo 2 - least rewarding investment in the history of me playing games. I really like the story in Halo and loath the multiplayer. When I get my 360 (when will they stop breaking?) I shall be buying Halo 3 first or nearly first and buying it for the single player, just like everyone bought halo 1 for the single player. I shan't be expecting it to be as good as MP3 though, just a decent end to the plot will do for me.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:31 am 0

Battalion Wars 2 gamplay walkthrough. Looking great fun.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8063&hl=en

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:11 pm 0

Rod, 7 out of 10? Looks like you don't appreciate the series much with that "again" comment....

Wow, I'm glad people are different.

The controls are absolutely sublime (my recommendation to everyone is to change to Advanced even before the game starts), even the visuals actually made me stop and stare in awe in many cases, and this is after enjoying the visuals in BioShock. Excellent stuff.

I was about 20% complete on Normal but decided to start again on Veteran. The challenge comes at least from the increased injury the enemy attacks make (which is the only thing I was after), haven't had time to notice any possible AI differences yet, which would be nice.

The intro level is a bit basic with all the narrative-stuff going on, but overall the game is still definitely Metroid in feel and execution. ACE.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:19 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
Mayhem wrote:But who's bought Halo 3 for the single player experience though?
I did mostly, but what is that apropos of?

Because up until that point, everyone I knew had bought H3 mainly for online multiplayer, be it co-op or deathmatch. And most agreement was that MP3's experience far exceeded H3's single player game. That's why I was asking. Because as MP3 has no multiplayer, I find it harder to compare the two, as opposed to say Gears of War vs Halo 3...

MP3 is a wonderful game and much deserving of a mark higher than 7...

Nixie · Post by **Nixie** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:30 pm 0

The Metroid Prime series make polygons look beautiful. # 3 is the best one yet. I don't think its possible to compare it to Halo or Bioshock, It isn't a straight out FPS. Its slower and more thoughtful.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:32 pm 0

Metroid has always had lovely organic/flowing landscapes to be, so its artwork is better then most even when its ""graphics"" are worse.

In some ways Metroids designs often remind me of Farscape.

Atty · Post by **Atty** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:27 pm 0

Wow! More MP3 under my belt and everything has clicked nicely. There are some truly stunning locations to explore and the boss battles are far more intense and fast paced than the ones in Prime 1 and 2.

Thumbs up so far! At the moment it's rating at about 8/10 on the attyometer, with the the minor control gripes knocking the score down a little. Now I've largely adjusted to them, MP3 is currently cruising for an overall 9/10 assuming that the fantastic environmental puzzles and imaginative set-pieces keep coming.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:57 pm 0

Worth mentioning that if you didn't enjoy the first two (like me) then MP3 is at least slightly more controllable.

I've barely started it but at least it made me plug my wii back in again for a few minutes. Not really inspired by the graphics yet though, coming from Halo 3 / Bioshock (or even Halo 2!) it's a bit cringeworthy...

Cheers

Bubba

Samus · Post by **Samus** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:13 pm 0

Bubba wrote:Worth mentioning that if you didn't enjoy the first two (like me) then MP3 is at least slightly more controllable.

I've barely started it but at least it made me plug my wii back in again for a few minutes. Not really inspired by the graphics yet though, coming from Halo 3 / Bioshock (or even Halo 2!) it's a bit cringeworthy...

Cheers

Bubba

Haha, what's up Bubba

Only "slightly"?

The controls (advanced) here are FAR better and more enjoyable than in any console First Person game I've played. Accuracy + immersion + flexibility + usability = Flawless Victory.

Oh and re visuals, wait until the game starts, spoiler hint:

Spoiler: show

And anyways, even in the beginning: "cringeworthy"?

Hmmmm...

Also worth mentioning that I never got along with MP2 that well, but absolutely love MP1 and while this seems different than either of those, I have a feeling I'm gonna end up loving this too. It's already given me much more than 15 hours of Echoes ever did.

Edit: my tips for MP newcomers:

Hint System "OFF" (a must)
Control Sensitivity "Advanced" (a must)
Helmet Opacity "0"
Speech Volume "+15"
SFX "-10"

Atty · Post by **Atty** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:13 pm 0

I must admit, the z-locking is still feeling a bit jarring - it can be quite difficult to get a hold on enemies sometimes as the game seems to require that you place your reticule over the monster you wish to lock onto. I'm finding that a bit awkward to do in big fire fights, especially when there are lots of obstacles in the way. I suspect it would work a lot better if the game just locked you onto the nearest and most central monster, with further taps cycling through (like old metroid prime) as this current point-and-lock system can be a bit too fiddly. Overall, I'd say that 90-95% of the time the controls work flawlessly and you blast through enemies, with the remaining 5-10% hampered slightly by the awkward z-locking and rather indistinct reticule.

Needless to say, MP3's control scheme takes a running dump on Dual Analogue.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:20 pm 0

Samus wrote:Only "slightly"?

The thing is, it feels very much like a Keyboard / Mouse control scheme but less accurate - I find turning especially problematic. If only I had three hands then I'd say hand 1 for aiming, two for movement and 3 for turning

I'm sure I can get used to it but at the moment it falls neatly between console FPS and keyboard and mouse FPS - doesn't help that I've recently been playing the excellent Orange Box on the PC which is just sublime controls, or Halo 3 on pads which again is the best in it's class. I suspect if I invest some more time in MP3 I'll get on with it better, perhaps I need to adjust the sensitivity or something

.

Oh and re visuals, wait until the game starts, spoiler hint:

Spoiler: show

And anyways, even in the beginning: "cringeworthy"?[/quote]
Yeah, mostly flat grey or bright green - there seems to not be much subtlety to it just yet

Xbox levels of graphics at the best, it really shows its age when playing H3 or HL2 Ep 2.

Hint System "OFF" (a must)
Control Sensitivity "Advanced" (a must)
Helmet Opacity "0"
Speech Volume "+15"
SFX "-10"

Much appreciated

. What is the hint system though? I got stuck for quite a bit in the ship trying to find the thrusters controls (yes I know!

) so perhaps I should leave this on for now...

Cheers

Bubba

grue · Post by **grue** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:02 am 0

Spore coming to Wii
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... willwright

That's my version then, big screen and wiimote.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:46 am 0

The Prime series for me has always had excellent graphics... though not just in terms of how they are created, more so in the actual design, structure and look. They've always looked like they could exist somewhere, making it far more belieavable a realisation...

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:52 am 0

I come directly from playing Bioshock, and I still find the graphics in MP3 to be gorgeous...there are insane amounts of details everywhere, and everything feels so "alive".

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:45 am 0

The thing is, it feels very much like a Keyboard / Mouse control scheme but less accurate - I find turning especially problematic. If only I had three hands then I'd say hand 1 for aiming, two for movement and 3 for turning

nah, 2 hands with 1 hand doing both movement (stick) and camera (tilt) would do

IGN mentioned COD4 or something had metroid-beating controlls, so I'm wondering if they are using that. (or something else like that, seperating the aim from the camera).

Spore coming to Wii
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... willwright

That's my version then, big screen and wiimote.

Great for confirmation.
Guess they dont have much assets to convert anyway