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WiteWulf wrote:What pisses me off more about this is that they're shitting on their own canon again. I'm pretty sure they stated that there was absolutely no way for anyone to pass between the two dimensions again after she'd gone..I wish they'd have just a *little* consistency...
Anything is possible in SciFi as long as the explanation is internally consistent (the Doctor has often been wrong about many things) and has an appropriate emotional payoff.
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Harlequin wrote: Anything is possible in SciFi as long as the explanation is internally consistent (the Doctor has often been wrong about many things) and has an appropriate emotional payoff.
Exactly. Will we ever get to the point where we have a person who knows absolutely everything that is and is not possible who can truly say something like what the Doctor said and be correct? I doubt it. The Doctor simply meant within the bounds of his knowledge and his culture's level of scientific discovery.
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Sorry...but you're both just appologists for slack script-writing and lack of internal consistency.
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WiteWulf wrote:Sorry...but you're both just appologists for slack script-writing and lack of internal consistency.
Rubbish.
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WiteWulf wrote:Sorry...but you're both just appologists for slack script-writing and lack of internal consistency.
I accept your apology but disagree with your statement.
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Harlequin wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:What pisses me off more about this is that they're shitting on their own canon again. I'm pretty sure they stated that there was absolutely no way for anyone to pass between the two dimensions again after she'd gone..I wish they'd have just a *little* consistency...
Anything is possible in SciFi as long as the explanation is internally consistent (the Doctor has often been wrong about many things) and has an appropriate emotional payoff.
Mmm - if only modern Dr Who was internally consistent :)
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You could argue that the emotional payoff only matters at the time the episode is released, and that having the situation magically "fixed" a few episodes (or seasons) later isn't worth worrying about (and could even be a major plot point) - but I'd argue that this is one of many reasons why modern Dr Who is unlikely to attain a classic status: the writers are too obsessed with their own cleverness and a desire to cram in as much soap-opera gunk and famous-people cameos as possible.

I mean: you'll have Old Flame (Rose), Lass With Crush (Martha) and Strident Companion (Donna), who will no doubt stick her oar inbetween all three. You can almost see RTD rubbing his hands in glee - especially since no doubt Jack will be thrown into the mix to complete the bisexual-alien-love quadrangle.

To be honest, I won't care who sleeps with who, if it's written well and the episode actually involves some sci-fi. Sadly, given the evidence to date, I'm not going to hold my breath!
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I really think the Doctor meant what he said that time.
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Kamineko wrote:I really think the Doctor meant what he said that time.
Indeed. But if the Doctor could harness the power of a collapsing sun to communicate across the rift, there may still be a way... I just wonder if it's a case of "Too many assistants, not enough Doctor"...
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Does anyone else feel the same way as Witewulf? C'mon. Own up. I could do with a giggle.

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Kamineko wrote:I really think the Doctor meant what he said that time.
He can mean things all he wants but it doesn't mean he's right.
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HGFB wrote:Does anyone else feel the same way as Witewulf? C'mon. Own up. I could do with a giggle.

And they call me the nerd :)
I dunno. It's a classic comic-book-ism, to find bad excuses to get around impossible barriers to bringing people back (death being the usual culprit).

One can hold Doctor Who up to higher standards than that - which on occasions it has certainly achieved, including several episodes in the new run - or not.

Certainly, the propensity for annoying Deus Ex Machinae indicates the writers have no fear of weak comic book plots :D.

Course, they could find a really neat way to do it and prove us all wrong. But I bet they don't ;).
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Dio wrote:Course, they could find a really neat way to do it and prove us all wrong. But I bet they don't ;).
Well, there's a whole bunch of Daleks knocking around in the Void. If someone wanted to get them out again...
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If they haul the Daleks out again this season there'll be a phrase involving the words 'horse' and 'flogging' deployed.
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Might be a good idea if you avoid series 4 then :)
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Dio wrote:If they haul the Daleks out again this season there'll be a phrase involving the words 'horse' and 'flogging' deployed.
Caan is still out there, in our universe.
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