Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

WiteWulf · Post by **WiteWulf** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:59 pm 0

It's worth pointing out for European users that, although games and discs may well be available in 1080p, there's not going to be a 1080p TV service anytime soon.

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:07 pm 0

No 1080p broadcast in the US either, as far as I know. It's just all the other fun toys you can plug into the tv that use it.

James

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:35 pm 0

Also worth noting that 1080p for games isn't likely to happen at least until the next generation of games consoles. They'll be exceptions, but most PS3 and 360 games will be 720p and up scaled by the console to 1080p, if you're lucky...

Cheers

Bubba

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:46 pm 0

But but. Sony said the only TrueHD(tm) was 1080p

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:57 pm 0

I had a Genesis wired to my current tv. That right there is why I'm taking this long-term view.

James

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:18 pm 0

HGFB wrote:But but. Sony said the only TrueHD(tm) was 1080p

To be fair (if that's wise), Sony do seem to be pushing 1080p harder than MS. There are in fact quite a few 1080p games on the PS3 (I think there's less than a handful on the 360 - someone correct me) so it's not a complete wasteland. And when they print 1080p on the box, they mean *native* 1080p. These titles will be exceptions obviously, and probably more PSN type stuff than anything else, but I think if you're lucky enough to have a big 1080p display, it's nice to play what games are available in full resolution. But I do agree that gaming is a largely 720p phenomenon at the moment and will be for some time. It's not something that bothers me at all frankly, I can hardly tell the difference.

I also agree with Jamesac that TVs should last for a decade, my last Panasonic CRT did. The market seems to be very upgrade driven now though.

Sorry for the thread derail too. Oops.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:10 pm 0

Yeah they'll be exceptions to the 720p rule, but by and large most (>95%) of games will be 720p, on both platforms. There are a few native 1080p titles for each system (Virtua Tennis, Ninja Gaiden, RR7 for example) but that's about it on the disc front. A lot of them (such as the Darkness) which are marked as native 1080p aren't native 1080p at all, but are rendered internally at a much lower resolution and upscaled.

However, lots of downloadable games run in 1080p which is nice

Taking the long term view, getting a 1080p set will probably be a good idea as I'd expect the next generation of consoles to be more capable of rendering to that kind of resolution.

Cheers

Bubba

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:15 pm 0

Honestly, I still don't own an HD set yet and my research is still in the "half-assed" stage. I just fully believe that, when buying a device that I expect to last me over a decade of use, I should plan on being happy with its performance at the end of that decade. 1080p is the format I expect to be the standard at the end of that time, so buying something that doesn't fully support it makes no sense to me.

True, however...

It's not something that bothers me at all frankly, I can hardly tell the difference.

I agree absolutely with this.
I cant tell the difference betwen 1080p and 720p unless I am viewing it far too close.
Used like a tv, 720p is fine. If my eyes cant tell them apart at that range (in motion) now, they certainly wont in 10 years.

I would hope in 10 years time theres a more significant upgrade. Resolution is sooooo overated. Give me decent colour depth, contrast, forcefeedback and smell-a-vision please.
Oh, and 3D while your at it.

But I do agree that gaming is a largely 720p phenomenon at the moment

I'm pretty sure 480p,or even native pal/ntsc is still going to be the vaste majority at the moment.
Especialy when you factor in people with high spec tv's not having the right cables &or owning a Wii.

HGFB wrote:But but. Sony said the only TrueHD(tm) was 1080p

at 120fps?

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:29 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:
But I do agree that gaming is a largely 720p phenomenon at the moment
I'm pretty sure 480p,or even native pal/ntsc is still going to be the vaste majority at the moment.

Yes good point, the biggest userbase is still probably the PS2, and the Wii is vastly more popular than its rivals as a new console and is very much SD.