The Dr Who thread

zip accident · Post by **zip accident** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:53 am 0

My preferance for old Who ahead of this may be due to the direction rather than Tennant's acting ability, all the other actors seem to have been struck down with the same disease.That preferance for other doctors over Tennant includes Tristan Farnon, he wasn't that good, Siegfried would have been better, but either would have been way ahead of Tennant as he is currently performing.

It reminded me of Zulu, in a bad way, there the director was also one of the actors, and every so often you'd get a ten second profile shot of him staring manfully into the distance (not Michael Caine, who was the star, in so far as there was one). This Who is full of meaningful looks and dramatic face shots, which is not where it should be at, IMO.

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:54 am 0

Zoot wrote:
I liked Rose, but only because I want to fuck her.

This one thing is what made Belle Dou Jour a success.

zip accident · Post by **zip accident** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:08 pm 0

WiteWulf wrote:

<MY_TWO_PENNETH>
Didn't like it, reasons already covered but mainly: Poseidon Adventure copy, cheap Davros rip-off, over use of bodies plunging into nuclear engine thingummy, unnecessary quasi-religious symbology with The Host carrying The Doctor up to the bridge, Tennant still gets on my tits.
</MY_TWO_PENNETH>

Some shoot RTD and let this show get back on track, please...

Yeah, but did no-one else find the denouement of the previous episode quasi-religious, and the forgiving of the master actually over-obviously Xtian?

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:25 pm 0

I didn't realise that Dr Who was on again today at 17:00hrs!

Sadly, it's where he meets his new companion... which if I'm honest, I *am* a bit bovvered about...

Still... we shall see...

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:33 pm 0

Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:I didn't realise that Dr Who was on again today at 17:00hrs!

Sadly, it's where he meets his new companion... which if I'm honest, I *am* a bit bovvered about...

Still... we shall see...

It is? Well I don't finish work till then. Bah.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:45 pm 0

zip accident wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:

<MY_TWO_PENNETH>
Didn't like it, reasons already covered but mainly: Poseidon Adventure copy, cheap Davros rip-off, over use of bodies plunging into nuclear engine thingummy, unnecessary quasi-religious symbology with The Host carrying The Doctor up to the bridge, Tennant still gets on my tits.
</MY_TWO_PENNETH>

Some shoot RTD and let this show get back on track, please...
Yeah, but did no-one else find the denouement of the previous episode quasi-religious, and the forgiving of the master actually over-obviously Xtian?

Sickeningly so.

I predicted they might be setting up Dr. Jesus for some kind of big fall in the future though, and things to get dark. But then, that should have jhapened with the Master and all we did was sit there as the expectation of a dues ex ending heightened with every second nearer the end that his power and domination grew.

Dr. needs to develop a nasty streak. Maybe they'll give him back Rose, then kill her? That's set him off. Let Tennant act again, because he can. It's like he's using recycled scripts at the moment.

supermario · Post by **supermario** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:47 pm 0

Sir_Lans-a-lot (Quality name BTW!) wrote

Sadly, it's where he meets his new companion... which if I'm honest, I *am* a bit bovvered about...

Well Catherine Tate did kill Lauren off in her Xmas special so maybe she's hoping for a long term event and not just a quick fling.

And I do agree with everyone who says the Doctor being carried up by the Hosts was over the top. RTD must be having a good laugh (I hope that's what he's doing anyway) thinking about that.....

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:24 pm 0

Humbug.
Another ruined xmas special.
Some great humour, and fleeting moments of epicness wrecked by badly placed sillyness. (sillyness is only good sometimes, and shouldn't be at major plot events).

Also, I absolutely hate rope-bridge scenarios

-edit-
Also a few plot-gaps;
a) If Max could turn the engines off any time, why did he need to bribe the captain?
b) Why did the hosts default to the Dr ? Surely after Max was killed, the ranks of the ship would apply next? (stowaways would be the last on the list surely?)

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:25 pm 0

Goatboy wrote:
zip accident wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:

<MY_TWO_PENNETH>
Didn't like it, reasons already covered but mainly: Poseidon Adventure copy, cheap Davros rip-off, over use of bodies plunging into nuclear engine thingummy, unnecessary quasi-religious symbology with The Host carrying The Doctor up to the bridge, Tennant still gets on my tits.
</MY_TWO_PENNETH>

Some shoot RTD and let this show get back on track, please...
Yeah, but did no-one else find the denouement of the previous episode quasi-religious, and the forgiving of the master actually over-obviously Xtian?
Sickeningly so.

I predicted they might be setting up Dr. Jesus for some kind of big fall in the future though, and things to get dark. But then, that should have jhapened with the Master and all we did was sit there as the expectation of a dues ex ending heightened with every second nearer the end that his power and domination grew.

Dr. needs to develop a nasty streak. Maybe they'll give him back Rose, then kill her? That's set him off. Let Tennant act again, because he can. It's like he's using recycled scripts at the moment.

Eventually he'll actually be the Master-albeit temporarily- count on it.

Eccleston did the wrestling with internal demons thing waaaay better as well.

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pogo · Post by **pogo** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:11 pm 0

Just saw the Who bit in Extras - a great bit of overacting from Mr Tennant, some ludicrous even for Who technobabble, but otherwise uncannily authentic.

Post by **RiK** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:11 am 0

Darkflame wrote: b) Why did the hosts default to the Dr ? Surely after Max was killed, the ranks of the ship would apply next? (stowaways would be the last on the list surely?)

Because if they did that then they wouldn't have been able to stick in that wanky "Dr Who is jesus" stuff with the guardians lifting him up to 'heaven', sorry, to the bridge..

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:39 am 0

Has anyone managed to download the commentary? They're claiming they're not allowed to offer it as a download, though god knows who's prohibiting them from doing so... and I can't get the streamed version to stay in sync.

Kamineko · Post by **Kamineko** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:57 am 0

Maybe they're embarassed.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:45 pm 0

Never mind, I found it as a torrent... but I couldn't sit through the whole thing. I'd forgotten how insufferably smug and self-congratulatory the commentaries are.