The 360 thread!

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:30 pm 0

Rod_S wrote: When she offered me a 360 wireless adapter, I asked "what do you suggest I use that for?". She just laughed.

Passing it on to someone who might actually want one?

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:52 pm 0

PVB wrote:
Rod_S wrote: When she offered me a 360 wireless adapter, I asked "what do you suggest I use that for?". She just laughed.
Passing it on to someone who might actually want one?

Or trading it on ebay\game.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:53 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
Fil wrote:You should have taken the swag.
But this is obviously how they're dealing with this - bribing people with crap they don't want or need. I just wanted to make a point that receiving free shit isn't going to resolve what I called up for. It's a pride thing, man.

I think you're right to do so. Gamers, (and this is going to sound offensive so wait for it), are generally fairly pathetic consumers. Wave a free turd of a game or a wireless thingy in front of most and all is forgiven. Even extended warranties. Freebies are bribes to placate, get you off the call, nothing more. It doesn't fix the network, and it's now painfully obvious that when it breaks you basically have no recourse. None. Reading about the Live situation makes me very pleased indeed I didn't invest in this Microsoft gaming utopia. Say what you like about Sony and what a clear bunch of corporate cunts they are too, but the the US PSN has been rock solid, and it's free. I've just come off an hour on COD4 this morning and matches are instant, and always have been, the only glitch was that the Gamespy UT3 servers were down for half a day this week. Otherwise it's been largely faultless.

Networks, especially gaming networks, need to be up. That's all there is to it. I can't believe the Live problems have gone on this long.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:54 pm 0

The point was to say no, I'm not accepting bribes or trinkets to shut me up and get me off the line, you know?

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:34 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:The point was to say no, I'm not accepting bribes or trinkets to shut me up and get me off the line, you know?

You must have the gift of the gab then, cos I've just spent ten minutes on the phone to them, as I had got disconnected again, then it took nearly ten minutes to connect to Live, but no amount of whinging and asking for some sort of compensation got me anywhere, other than the bloke repeating the same stock "We're dealing with the problems as soon as possible..." etc. again and again.

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:03 pm 0

Fucking hell, Rod. Way to stick up to The Man.

For future reference, TAKE THE WIRELESS ADAPTER AND RUN!

Post by **RiK** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:14 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:Who else is still having problems with Live? I notice some peeps on my Friends list are in CoD games all the time, are you playing private or matchmaking games?

I've had no problems all week, and I've been playing mainly late evening.

Phineasfool · Post by **Phineasfool** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:20 pm 0

PVB wrote:
Rod_S wrote:The point was to say no, I'm not accepting bribes or trinkets to shut me up and get me off the line, you know?
You must have the gift of the gab then, cos I've just spent ten minutes on the phone to them, as I had got disconnected again, then it took nearly ten minutes to connect to Live, but no amount of whinging and asking for some sort of compensation got me anywhere, other than the bloke repeating the same stock "We're dealing with the problems as soon as possible..." etc. again and again.

Did you threaten to cancel your subscription? That usually gets them to offer stuff up.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:27 pm 0

Phineasfool wrote: Did you threaten to cancel your subscription? That usually gets them to offer stuff up.

I didn't exactly threaten to cancel, I just vaguely asked what the alternatives were to ending my subscription. I didn't ask for compensation. If I'd been all arsey, demanded stuff and threatened to leave, they would've let me. There was no ranting, no voices raised or anything, it was all cordial and good humored - the call lasted an hour. Play the nice guy and be the kind of customer they want to keep.

teamonkey wrote:Fucking hell, Rod. Way to stick up to The Man.

GeeZa wrote: Networks, especially gaming networks, need to be up. That's all there is to it. I can't believe the Live problems have gone on this long.

Yeah exactly, and cheers for the rest of your post.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:01 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
GeeZa wrote: Networks, especially gaming networks, need to be up. That's all there is to it. I can't believe the Live problems have gone on this long.
Yeah exactly, and cheers for the rest of your post.

I just sympathise with you or anyone else having problems with seemingly no obvious path to improvement. Apologies for the Sony thing in my post, it wasn't meant as any sort of platform oneupmanship, more a sort of sense of irony really. Fingers crossed it gets sorted.

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:37 pm 0

Got logged out of Live again whilst playing Mass Effect, so the date I got another achievement hasn't been saved.

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:39 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:There was no ranting, no voices raised or anything, it was all cordial and good humored - the call lasted an hour. Play the nice guy and be the kind of customer they want to keep.

An hour?!

If I had to keep on the phone for an hour, listening to the same statement again and again, I think I'd have gone mad.

Think I'll try again in a day or so, to see if I get someone better.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:55 am 0

GeeZa wrote: I just sympathise with you or anyone else having problems with seemingly no obvious path to improvement. Apologies for the Sony thing in my post, it wasn't meant as any sort of platform oneupmanship, more a sort of sense of irony really. Fingers crossed it gets sorted.

I'm pretty sure MS are waiting for all the one month Live trials that were included with 360's over Christmas to expire at the end of January - we're probably looking at the majority of them not ponying up for a full subscription thanks to it being so shit recently, and Live getting back to some kind of normality. Then the inevitable self congratulatory press release about how extra servers + mega bandwidth backbone have been rolled out. Christ it's all so depressingly predictable isn't it.

No bother about mentioning Sony, I know you're not biased and the point was most valid.

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:16 am 0

Yes, it's shit. But the way some of you guys go on you make it sound like we actually want the bloody thing to be broken.

And you all know full well that if this was Sony or Nintendo's online service suffering these problems they'd be doing things in pretty much the same way we are, only with less offers of free stuff

fog · Post by **fog** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:57 pm 0

Flabio wrote:Yes, it's shit. But the way some of you guys go on you make it sound like we actually want the bloody thing to be broken.

And you all know full well that if this was Sony or Nintendo's online service suffering these problems they'd be doing things in pretty much the same way we are, only with less offers of free stuff

Even by Microsoft PR standards that's poor.