The 360 thread!

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:22 am 0

Demo: Devil May Cry 4 - All regions - 614Mb

chub · Post by **chub** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:45 pm 0

RageMatrix wrote:Anyone played Frontlines: Fuel of War demo? I really liked it - sorta like a more freeform CoD, although the controls are a little weird. Reminds me of BF1942 quite a bit.

I liked it too actually. I didn't know anything about it before playing the demo, and so had low expectations, but it turned out to be alright. I like those radio control car bombs especially. Zip around, park next to someone's foot, then boom!

VNVObit · Post by **VNVObit** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:58 pm 0

eventually managed to get online
really wasn't worth the effort for undertow

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:42 pm 0

benedictw wrote:Demo: Devil May Cry 4 - All regions - 614Mb

Hmmm. Was looking forward to this, but it looks like the franchise has stagnated. It's the PS2 game in hi-res, even the menu sound effects and incidental music is the same, and those fixed camera angles feel so claustrophobic and dated after the freedom we've been afforded in other games.

The combat is as slick and brutal as ever, but I kind of sighed my way through the demo and didn't feel particularly inspired or excited by it. The franchise needs moving on, by now I expected to see completely destructible/deformable environments rather than the purely decorative scenery we have now, or a decent two player/co-op mode.

Devil May Cry 4/10

I thought Frontlines was absolute dogshit.

Bad week for gaming really.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:29 pm 0

Bugger, DMC4 was on my shopping list. Never played the games before but I might just pick the PS2 game(s) up cheap instead. Maybe the new 360 version of Ninja Gaiden will be better.....

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:33 pm 0

I'm not that surprised about DMC4, I havn't liked any of them since the first one. They went all style over substance on it.

Gaiden looks fun, hopefully we'll see a demo of that too. Likely I would've though, given DOA4 got one.

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:49 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
benedictw wrote:Demo: Devil May Cry 4 - All regions - 614Mb
Hmmm. Was looking forward to this, but it looks like the franchise has stagnated. It's the PS2 game in hi-res, even the menu sound effects and incidental music is the same, and those fixed camera angles feel so claustrophobic and dated after the freedom we've been afforded in other games.

The combat is as slick and brutal as ever, but I kind of sighed my way through the demo and didn't feel particularly inspired or excited by it. The franchise needs moving on, by now I expected to see completely destructible/deformable environments rather than the purely decorative scenery we have now, or a decent two player/co-op mode.

Devil May Cry 4/10

It really is a bit shit isn't it. Not Turok shit, but still a huge disappointment.

The Captain · Post by **The Captain** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:03 pm 0

[quote="Rod_S]I thought Frontlines was absolute dogshit.
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I simply couldn't believe the gulf between this and COD4. The controls are SO slow and the gameplay hugely dated. I couldn't quite believe the nerve of it. And the plot is so derivative and po-faced it makes Rainbow Six look like Katamari Damacy.

The past few months have seen FPS releases of such astonishing quality that the likes of this and Turok seem like even older hat than they would otherwise have done. Not that I mind old hats as long as they are stylish and comfortable, but . . . oh. . . *forgets point*

Ratsoap · Post by **Ratsoap** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:08 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:
benedictw wrote:Demo: Devil May Cry 4 - All regions - 614Mb

Hmmm. Was looking forward to this, but it looks like the franchise has stagnated. It's the PS2 game in hi-res, even the menu sound effects and incidental music is the same, and those fixed camera angles feel so claustrophobic and dated after the freedom we've been afforded in other games.

/quote]

Bah, I was hoping you were exaggerating, but it really is a PS2 game with fancy clothes on isn't it? Well disappointing.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:44 pm 0

How small is the main character in Undertow? I feel ripped off and it was free

Bag ' o shite.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:02 pm 0

Ratsoap wrote: Bah, I was hoping you were exaggerating, but it really is a PS2 game with fancy clothes on isn't it? Well disappointing.

Yeah, I think after that amazing run of AAA+++ software last year we're realising what next-gen games are capable of delivering, and HD remakes of our old games aren't cutting it. It's like buying Dark Side Of The Moon on Laserdisc.

DMC4 is like the games you get in the first wave of launch titles for a new console, for such a big budget flagship Capcom franchise that's so disappointing. This should be kicking the arse out of games like God Of War and Gaiden and proving it's the DADDY of slasher games, but it feels weak and laboured. I remember getting the first one on the PS2 and basically wetting myself.

Frontlines would've been good if it was the first ever console shooter, as it goes it's totally outclassed by stuff like Project Snowblind and Pariah on the original Xbox. Now that's depressing.

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:54 pm 0

Rod_S wrote: Frontlines would've been good if it was the first ever console shooter, as it goes it's totally outclassed by stuff like Project Snowblind and Pariah on the original Xbox. Now that's depressing.

No wonder it got canned for the PS3.

fog · Post by **fog** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:19 am 0

Rod_S wrote:
Ratsoap wrote: Bah, I was hoping you were exaggerating, but it really is a PS2 game with fancy clothes on isn't it? Well disappointing.
Yeah, I think after that amazing run of AAA+++ software last year we're realising what next-gen games are capable of delivering, and HD remakes of our old games aren't cutting it. It's like buying Dark Side Of The Moon on Laserdisc.

Which just goes to prove that all those who said next gen would just mean the same old games but with better graphics couldn't have been more wrong. Game design has moved on a hell of a lot recently and it's only when we get served up something like DMC4 that most people will notice.

skweek · Post by **skweek** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:21 am 0

fog wrote:
Rod_S wrote:
Ratsoap wrote: Bah, I was hoping you were exaggerating, but it really is a PS2 game with fancy clothes on isn't it? Well disappointing.
Yeah, I think after that amazing run of AAA+++ software last year we're realising what next-gen games are capable of delivering, and HD remakes of our old games aren't cutting it. It's like buying Dark Side Of The Moon on Laserdisc.
Which just goes to prove that all those who said next gen would just mean the same old games but with better graphics couldn't have been more wrong. Game design has moved on a hell of a lot recently and it's only when we get served up something like DMC4 that most people will notice.

Yeah, I think the most next-gen game for me so far has been skate. Simple intuitive controls, but lots of depth to it. Really looking forward to skate 2.

peter_cushion · Post by **peter_cushion** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:36 am 0

Jonesey wrote:I found Turning Point:Fall of Liberty to be a good idea badly executed. Average visuals (some shockingly bad exteriors), small FOV (I'm talking fish-eye lense compared to some FPS games), strangely stilted controls for turning and movement and combat of the old-school MoH style.

Not really a buyer for me, anyway.

Didn't Microsoft put out a missive to developers to make their demos interesting? Walking along narrow planks for the first 5 minutes is not going to have me foaming at the gash. I can't think of anyone who would buy this, it's going to lose the publisher a fortune.