Opinions - Creative Zen or ipod Touch

[Marius]

It looks absolutely gorgeous, but 16GB is simply not enough. Is it possible to upgrade the memory in the near future?

[Sir_LANs-a-lot]

It looks absolutely gorgeous, but 16GB is simply not enough. Is it possible to upgrade the memory in the near future?

You can't "upgrade" one as such, but a 32GB model is now available.

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/

EDIT:
Oh, I'd definitely recommend the iTouch - I'm not a MacWanker whatsoever, but the Touch is furking lush.

[benedictw]

Oh its fantastic - my wife uses hers all the time and shes not a gadget person, but the convenience of decent, portable web browsing plus the occasional bit of media playing makes it great for her needs.

[Peet]

Though tbh I'd rather get an iPhone than either of those.

[Governmentyard]

I heart my Zen Sleek Photo (now of yesteryear, really) but the touch sounds awesome as a media dingbat of distinction. Nowt wrong with the Zens, great players andwell priced for what they are, which is basically what occupies the spacbetween iPods and the dross.

But yeah, the touch looks like the way to go, though of course if your Zen still works, hanging on a month or three will see another Apple do and another incremental spec update to their range, and if you stick a tenner away a month until then and love your zen a little more, a 64g touch or something will be there to buy. I'm going to have to seriously consider one of these for the future, to repace my Zen/PSP music/video portable entertainment setup of today.

Or, you could get a Nokia E70 if an iPhone is something you are considering
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

[schweigs]

Or, you could get a Nokia E70 if an iPhone is something you are considering
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

That page made me chuckle.

I had a play with an ipod touch at the Apple store and I got a bit confused by the now playing list. I queued up some songs to the on-the-go playlist and then started a song playing on it. I then exited playlists and chose now playing which showed me the current song playing. I wanted to see what other songs I had queued up so I pressed what looked like a list icon in the top right. The list showed (I think) the album of the currently playing song.

Am I being dopey or is there no way to see a list of the currently queued songs?

I have to say that it is a stunningly beautiful device. Hats off to Apple for the UI - so slick. Now they've raised the bar hopefully other phone and gadget makers will have to raise their game to keep up

[aureole]

I think as a gadget, the Touch probably has everything covered nicely. I'm sure Creative will be borrowing a few ideas and making their own (like they did for the Zen . I'm a happy Zen owner. The main reason that swung it for me (over a video iPod) was the support of divX on the Zen (and to a lesser extent, battery life), and no iTunes. The UI is marginally inferior but the software is (IMO) much easier, and there's a raft of even easier alternatives if needs be.

[unutterable]

I've had a Zen Vision M for over a year now, and I've never grown comfortable with its interface, which I still consider hopelessly clunky. I had a go on a Touch the other day and I have to say that it just seemed a lot more user friendly. In fact I wanted one right away...

Things that count in the Zen's favour would have to be good battery time, decent storage space (30 gig on my aging one) and the fact that it can take a lot of punishment, including being repeatedly punched down from tables by evil cats. Earlier today I lost the Zen into a foot of fresh snow and had to rummage about for a couple of minutes before finding it - still cheerfully playing the same tune.

[Drew Badly]

I've had a Zen Vision M for over a year now, and I've never grown comfortable with its interface, which I still consider hopelessly clunky. I had a go on a Touch the other day and I have to say that it just seemed a lot more user friendly. In fact I wanted one right away...

Things that count in the Zen's favour would have to be good battery time, decent storage space (30 gig on my aging one) and the fact that it can take a lot of punishment, including being repeatedly punched down from tables by evil cats. Earlier today I lost the Zen into a foot of fresh snow and had to rummage about for a couple of minutes before finding it - still cheerfully playing the same tune.

I'm in the exact same boat - I just mustn't buy anything else gadgty! Must resist but soooo tempted

[rowan]

I had a play with an ipod touch at the Apple store and I got a bit confused by the now playing list. I queued up some songs to the on-the-go playlist and then started a song playing on it. I then exited playlists and chose now playing which showed me the current song playing. I wanted to see what other songs I had queued up so I pressed what looked like a list icon in the top right. The list showed (I think) the album of the currently playing song.

Am I being dopey or is there no way to see a list of the currently queued songs?

In that case, you can go back to the on-the-go playlist and select another from it but basically*
if you start a song playing whilst the playlist is going then it shifts into "play this album" and stomps
over your playlist.

* I hope someone can correct me on that because it really annoys me, I want to play say 4/5 star
rated tracks and then maybe skip to another in the list without it hosing the playlist and going
into album play mode. Whilst I can go back to the 4/5 star playlist and pick another track, they're
sorted in a silly order, there's no find facility and if I'm in random play it will re-randomise the
whole lot.

[Duck Turkin]

I love my iPod Touch.

[jshawnd]

Though I don't know the details on the Creative Zen, I really like my iPod Touch. Will be upgrading to the iPhone once my current contract expires...

[Marius]

Is the iPhone and iTouch more or less exactly the same machine, with the obvious exception of the phone-part?

[Sir_LANs-a-lot]

Is the iPhone and iTouch more or less exactly the same machine, with the obvious exception of the phone-part?

Yes.

[Deckard]

Is the iPhone and iTouch more or less exactly the same machine, with the obvious exception of the phone-part?

Yes but the iphone has a better screen apparently - http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/tested ... 299774.php