The Netbook Thread

defsdoor · Post by **defsdoor** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:59 pm 0

Got one in at work today to test how they worked with a Vodafone 3g USB Modem - it's a lovely machine. The USB Modem worked out of the box too which was nice.

I'm searching where to get openvpn for it now - with that we have a nice little portable out of hours support machine.

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:12 am 0

benedictw wrote:

That's one ugly computer!

Still, I'll keep an eye on it. It'll either be that or an 8" Eee.

Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:12 am 0

teamonkey wrote:
benedictw wrote:
That's one ugly computer!

Still, I'll keep an eye on it. It'll either be that or an 8" Eee.

I think it will make a fantastic machine for a Spectrum emulator

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:04 pm 0

Check out this 'UMPC' from HP.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps- ... -revealed/

If my calculations are correct it's about an inch wider, and half a inch deeper.
So very similar sized, and half a pound more isn't bad. Express card is a very
nice feature for SSDs.

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:21 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote:If my calculations are correct it's about an inch wider, and half a inch deeper.
So very similar sized, and one thousand four hundred pounds more isn't bad. Express card is a very
nice feature for SSDs.

Fixed!

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:26 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:If my calculations are correct it's about an inch wider, and half a inch deeper.
So very similar sized, and one thousand four hundred pounds more isn't bad. Express card is a very
nice feature for SSDs.
Fixed!

Yeah it probably will be very pricey, but it's still good to see more
and more companies targeting this niche.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:27 pm 0

It looks lovely, has a decent spec bump (the screen res especially), but the price just doesn't seem to fit after the eeepc

Has anyone here tried Windows / Windows Fundamentals on the eee yet?

Cheers

Bubba

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:39 pm 0

Kemper_Boyd wrote: Yeah it probably will be very pricey, but it's still good to see more
and more companies targeting this niche.

The eee squares the circle - its both cheap AND decent - the (relative) cheapness allows people to use one on the go whereas I would worry about using a UMPC that might be 5x the price.

Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:41 pm 0

There is no announced price yet, but HP hinted it might be reasonable.

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2008/02/16/h ... s-spring-/

FWIW Menlow is meant to deliver $500 MID/UMPCs. Eee is cheap by 'barrel
scrapping', but in the not too distant future an OEM should be able to use
components that were designed with this niche in mind.

Al · Post by Al » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:08 pm 0

Bubba wrote:Has anyone here tried Windows / Windows Fundamentals on the eee yet?

Got XP running on mine. It was a bit of a squeeze, but with NTFS compression on and a few bits offloaded to an SD card I've crammed Word, Outlook, OneNote (all 2007 vintage) and Visual C++ Express on there and still have a bit of leg room. Bumping it up to a gig of RAM meant I can get away without a swap file and while it's not exactly sprightly, it runs well enough. Unfortunately hibernate mode isn't really an option when it sucks up a quarter of the disk! Trying to keep XP's disk usage in check (what with system file protection, uninstall and backup files from updates and all that jazz) is a constant battle as well.

Didn't really have a particular use for it in mind when I bought it, but with installs of BBC iPlayer and 4-on-demand, plus a 4Gb SD card for video storage it's become a nice little portable on-demand TV - and given I'm crunching at work at the moment then being able to load it up at home then catch up on a little missed telly during lunch breaks is most welcome

VNVObit · Post by **VNVObit** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:51 am 0

Pcked one up today
must say I am impressed by the little machine although the right shift key is too close to the up arrow for my fingers.
still manage a reasonable speed at typing on it

will look at getting an SD card to expand as it seems to lose alot of storage just from the basic system.

glad I got it

techno12 · Post by **techno12** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:28 am 0

Al wrote:
Bubba wrote:Has anyone here tried Windows / Windows Fundamentals on the eee yet?
Got XP running on mine. It was a bit of a squeeze, but with NTFS compression on and a few bits offloaded to an SD card I've crammed Word, Outlook, OneNote (all 2007 vintage) and Visual C++ Express on there and still have a bit of leg room. Bumping it up to a gig of RAM meant I can get away without a swap file and while it's not exactly sprightly, it runs well enough. Unfortunately hibernate mode isn't really an option when it sucks up a quarter of the disk! Trying to keep XP's disk usage in check (what with system file protection, uninstall and backup files from updates and all that jazz) is a constant battle as well.

Didn't really have a particular use for it in mind when I bought it, but with installs of BBC iPlayer and 4-on-demand, plus a 4Gb SD card for video storage it's become a nice little portable on-demand TV - and given I'm crunching at work at the moment then being able to load it up at home then catch up on a little missed telly during lunch breaks is most welcome

I'll be putting XP on mine soon - sick of Linux and the ludicrous and convoluted way it has to install software (or 'packages') - all command line "sudo blah blah" stuff, guessing which is the closest compiled 'distro' etc, unzipping horrible archives etc, unless I'm missing something - wtf?! It's like being back at uni on Unix in '89!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for command line stuff (in fact, my colleagues at work laugh as the first thing I do after I've booted up is to bring up two DOS boxes - I find it far easier for navigate directories etc using 'em)

I'll try that nLite thing and get a 600mb XP install. Apparently you don't need a swapfile, even with the default 512mb.

Plus, I'll be able to play Warcraft3 on it

defsdoor · Post by **defsdoor** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:48 am 0

I think you've missed something somewhere - sounds like your eee PC isn't booting into the GUI.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:06 am 0

techno12 wrote:I'll be putting XP on mine soon - sick of Linux and the ludicrous and convoluted way it has to install software (or 'packages') - all command line "sudo blah blah" stuff, guessing which is the closest compiled 'distro' etc, unzipping horrible archives etc, unless I'm missing something - wtf?! It's like being back at uni on Unix in '89!

That's not Linux in general. That's Asus deciding to use a bastardised version of Xandros. Stick Ubuntu on there and it's a lot less stressful.

MDY · Post by **MDY** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:51 pm 0

techno12 wrote:
I'll try that nLite thing and get a 600mb XP install. Apparently you don't need a swapfile, even with the default 512mb.

Definately use nLite or TinyXp - I had 2gb left on the 4gb model when I'd installed it (and the Ghost image backup crunched down to <500mb - half the size of the Linux OS backup I'd done before I flattened it).
If you can afford an extra Â£25 - I'd highly recommend buying 1gb of RAM AND a 4gb SD card - you can then chuck all your big apps, the swapfile etc onto that - OK it means you have to leave it in there ALL the time - but it's better a Â£10 card getting (eventually) trashed than the internal HD.

Good article here:
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/windowsxp

YakYak

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