The Apple thread
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Re: The Apple thread
Simulator, remote debug and Xcode integration are fairly run of the mill.
The interface designer should be good and Instruments sounds great.
The interface designer should be good and Instruments sounds great.
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Re: The Apple thread
Apple need a decent touch controlled shoot-em-up. 
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Re: The Apple thread
Looks like they did one in 2 weeks..

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Re: The Apple thread
iPhone Spore!
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Like this ""This is what we could do in two weeks and 10,000 lines of code. But I don't want to give you my word. So a few weeks ago, we called up a handful of companies, and asked them to send out a couple of engineers each, to see what they could accomplish in two weeks on an SDK they'd never seen before. In fact, most of them had never touched a Mac for development before."
For all you doubters out there...
For all you doubters out there...
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Re: The Apple thread
What sort of a vertically orientated shoot em up on a palm sized device with mouse inspired touch control? Where would we find such a thing?Kemper_Boyd wrote:Apple need a decent touch controlled shoot-em-up.
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I think Gravy is too engrossed to post.Muphex wrote:What sort of a vertically orientated shoot em up on a palm sized device with mouse inspired touch control? Where would we find such a thing?Kemper_Boyd wrote:Apple need a decent touch controlled shoot-em-up.
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No one writes 10,000 lines of useful code in two weeks.Deckard wrote:Like this ""This is what we could do in two weeks and 10,000 lines of code. But I don't want to give you my word. So a few weeks ago, we called up a handful of companies, and asked them to send out a couple of engineers each, to see what they could accomplish in two weeks on an SDK they'd never seen before. In fact, most of them had never touched a Mac for development before."
For all you doubters out there...
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Re: The Apple thread
Developer picks the price, 70% of revenue, no fees, paid monthly.
Actually The Steve just said there's one $99 fee to register as
a developer in order to publish apps.
Actually The Steve just said there's one $99 fee to register as
a developer in order to publish apps.
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Re: The Apple thread
They had to go with iTunes - malacious apps on the iPhone would be a publicity disaster even though it wouldnt have been Apple's fault. All available in June 
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/me is, indeed, very happyKemper_Boyd wrote:I can't remember who it was who needed it but from the ongoing SDK talk...
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Re: The Apple thread
...and the real killer app: ActiveSync!kalmar wrote:Cisco VPN support and Exchange compatability?
Man, they are really going to sell a ton of these now.
Does there have to be a price? Can there be free downloads?Kemper_Boyd wrote:Developer picks the price, 70% of revenue, no fees, paid monthly.
Actually The Steve just said there's one $99 fee to register as
a developer in order to publish apps.
I don't think it would be a huge problem unless it's worse than Linux, Symbian or Windows Mobile. They've just realised they could make more money with a captive audience.Deckard wrote:They had to go with iTunes - malacious apps on the iPhone would be a publicity disaster even though it wouldnt have been Apple's fault.
Still, despite those misgivings it does look quite a powerful suite of tools. Are you able to dev for it on non-Macs?
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Re: The Apple thread
Apps can be free but a developer needs to pay $99 to get a signing key.
They'll probably do some basic checking to make sure you are who you
claim you are. Apparently there will also be a $299 enterprise key for
companies who want to use the iPhone for vertical applications, with
internal distribution (a private push method I would guess).
The $99 is no big deal I think, I suspect they are charging mainly to stop
ten bazillion 'developers' signing up. Even open source groups should
easily find the money, many projects I use get thousands and thousands
in donations. Anyone with a good open source idea should have no trouble
getting enough money to pay for the key. The $100 million fund may even
support useful open source and free projects.
They'll probably do some basic checking to make sure you are who you
claim you are. Apparently there will also be a $299 enterprise key for
companies who want to use the iPhone for vertical applications, with
internal distribution (a private push method I would guess).
The $99 is no big deal I think, I suspect they are charging mainly to stop
ten bazillion 'developers' signing up. Even open source groups should
easily find the money, many projects I use get thousands and thousands
in donations. Anyone with a good open source idea should have no trouble
getting enough money to pay for the key. The $100 million fund may even
support useful open source and free projects.
Re: The Apple thread
It's a non-issue. Application distribution for mobile devices has never been done well and as a proven, working, means for content distribution for portable devices we're unlikely to see any better than iTunes.teamonkey wrote:I don't think it would be a huge problem unless it's worse than Linux, Symbian or Windows Mobile.Deckard wrote:They had to go with iTunes - malacious apps on the iPhone would be a publicity disaster even though it wouldnt have been Apple's fault.
As a one time mobile phone software developer I can happily say that nothing created by mankind will ever be worse than having to develop with ActiveSync. I think I'm looking forward to getting my mitts on this one. First time I've been interested in mobile development again for years.
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Re: The Apple thread
Nothing is persuading me to get an iPhone more than the fact that I currently have to use ActiveSync to sync my phone. 

