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Gus wrote:Anyone tried to do anything yet? I've compiled up a bunch of the sample code demos, but can't get any of the GL demos to run. They all say something along the lines of "can't run this in the simulator, connect a device to run it", but of course you can only run software on the device if you've subscribed to one of the developer programs (standard & enterprise) & it seems to be saying that they're only available to developers in the US, with the rest of the world following over the next few months. Doh!


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P.S. I could be way off, I'm not known for my patience at actually reading stuff through :-)
Read a *tiny* bit more & it seems that OpenGL ES is not supported in the simulator, & you need iPhone OS 2.0 to run apps directly on the phone which is of course not available until June, except for the select few who qualify for the beta program :(
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Correct. I'd expect a cracked version to be spread over the weekend though.

The Touch should be different, dunno.

The thing that's bugging me at the moment is.. If you try to buy/download these cool new apps through iTunes, but you've got a fake-activated iPhone (i.e., not officially activated through iTunes along with crippling network contract) then it's not going to let you, is it. Cos it'll know.
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Supposedly the BBC's iPlayer is working in beta form for the iPhone and Touch today.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/07 ... ailablity/
How do I use BBC iPlayer on the iPhone or iPod touch?

BBC iPlayer for iPhones and iPod touch is currently in a beta phase.

Ensure that you have a wireless internet connection for your iPhone or iPod touch, then go to BBC iPlayer homepage. You can Click to Play (stream) any of the programmes available, but you cannot download at present.

Please note that you will need to keep the wireless connection while watching a programme.
Saying that. I seem to get the normal web interface, and all the videos say unavailable.

Anyone else having any luck?
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Not been able to get anything to run on the Touch, either atm. Error 34 all the way. Think I'm going to downgrade back to 1.1.3 and carry on using the DevToolChain.
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My dad was having a go at the iplayer earlier and it seemed to work. It looked quite impressive, actually. Will report back...
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Cloudane wrote:My dad was having a go at the iplayer earlier and it seemed to work. It looked quite impressive, actually. Will report back...
Yes, it works fine. Just a lot of the videos aren't available yet.

Very good quality playback.
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In my way of pressing random buttons to see what happens, I've just learned how to do something in a much more efficient way. Often I need to see my desktop, but with a screen covered in windows it involved pressing cmd-H lots of times, then the hassle of getting all the windows back again.

While idly prodding the F3 key on my mac and watching the pretty animation I discovered cmd-F3 shunts everything out the way so I can see my desktop. I then pressed the other modifier keys to see what else happens. You're all Mac owners so you know what they do, so maybe you can explain the point of pressing Shift-F3.

Press F3, all windows get tiled on the screen. Press Shift-F3 and the exact same thing happens, but slowly. It seems holding shift down makes everything happen slower... I see no point beyond blatant eye candy to show off to your friends with :)

Apple are strange. They've always been big pushers of the GUI, giving the impression using the keyboard is not the best way to interact with your computer. And yet OSX is filled with really useful features that can only be activated by pressing key combinations. Even stranger, I know more OSX keyboard shortcuts than I do in Windows... they seem to make more sense on my Mac than in Windows; I'm forever using cmd-W and cmd-Q, they've become a vital way of using my Mac, but in Windows I still press the 'X' in the corner of the window (or sometimes even double-click the icon in the other corner!).
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piku wrote:Apple are strange. They've always been big pushers of the GUI, giving the impression using the keyboard is not the best way to interact with your computer. And yet OSX is filled with really useful features that can only be activated by pressing key combinations. Even stranger, I know more OSX keyboard shortcuts than I do in Windows... they seem to make more sense on my Mac than in Windows; I'm forever using cmd-W and cmd-Q, they've become a vital way of using my Mac, but in Windows I still press the 'X' in the corner of the window (or sometimes even double-click the icon in the other corner!).
:lol: You've discovered something that all Mac users discover but keep quite.
That the Mac is more keyboard friendly than just about any other OS. Install
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Yeah the shift key is the "Haha, we're much cooler than you" modifier. I use it to minimise windows now and then just to get a shot of RDF.

OSX is *very* keyboard-centric, for good reasons. My advice to any new user is learn the keyboard shortcuts. You'll be flying around the OS in no time. As KB says, combine it with a launcher and you're kicking ass.
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GeeZa wrote:OSX is *very* keyboard-centric, for good reasons.
One mouse button was a good reason to make the OS keyboard-centric?
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GeeZa wrote:Yeah the shift key is the "Haha, we're much cooler than you" modifier. I use it to minimise windows now and then just to get a shot of RDF.
Yeah, I did that just for a laugh.

I'm now in Linux, where things are functional and and slightly sharp around the edges ;)
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HGFB wrote:One mouse button was a good reason to make the OS keyboard-centric?
No I think there's some recognition that the keyboard is actually faster and more convenient for some things, usually repetitive functions or stuff where two hands are useful (i.e. the ubiquitous Paste). 90% of my most used menu selections are always keyboard-based now, I mean does *anyone* travel over to the top right to use Spotlight when CTRL-Space gets you there in an instant? There's been some research done that suggests that generally mousing is faster than keyboarding for most, but that for some reason the brain perceives it as slower. Dunno if that's still relevant.

Some apps just confuse matters (like Command-N is synonymous with "New" but with VLC it's "Network") but on the whole I find I'm quicker getting round OSX because I know a lot of the keyboard triggers and have set some of my own up. It's probably habitual now but I do find myself at home with the keyboard on OSX more than any other OS. Whether it's got anything to do with a one-button mouse I have no idea (my mouse has a trillion buttons).
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piku wrote:While idly prodding the F3 key on my mac and watching the pretty animation I discovered cmd-F3 shunts everything out the way so I can see my desktop. I then pressed the other modifier keys to see what else happens. You're all Mac owners so you know what they do, so maybe you can explain the point of pressing Shift-F3.
This was one of those WTF-moments of Leopard. Panther and Tiger had them all on separate F-keys.

What you're looking at is standard Exposé (F3) - reveals all windows
Applications Exposé (Ctrl-F3) - reveals all windows belonging to that application (great for web browsers etc)
Desktop Exposé (Cmd-F3) - shows the desktop.

They were originally F9, F10 and F11 (Dashboard F12) until they decided to confuse us oldschool folk by shuffling them around :)

You can assign them to other buttons including 'fn key' modes and mouse buttons under the system prefs. For the mighty mouse I have the squeeze button(s) as standard Exposé and the middle button as Dashboard. Microsoft multi-button mice get a bit more loving!
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Java coming soon to the iPhone in June. Nice.
Future plans could include extending more sophisticated Java Standard Edition (SE) and JavaFX technologies to the iPhone, Klein said.
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I want accelerometer controlled sheep in space. kthx.
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