Amazing Demo Scene Guy (bit techy)

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Oh oh, I can see where this is going... :roll:

OK, I'll feed the troll (a little)...

I'm a "professional" "corporate" programmer and I use XML for configuration files. Does that make me a bad person? Funnily enough, I didn't have the time (or the desire) to hand roll a custom file-format parser in assembler so that I could store a couple of integers that could easily be edited in notepad by a non-developer. Honestly, do people still think like this in this day and age? I'm all for efficient and elegant code and I believe that you can strike a healthy balance between complexity, performance and maintainability in most common "business" languages (C#, Java, C++) without having to <snigger> "get down to the metal". That sort of attitude will probably get you laughed out of most major games development companies nowadays, nevermind so-called "business" outfits.

My 2p. YMMV. etc.etc.
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You'll have to try harder than that :)
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Jimaroid wrote:You all know that binary formats are wrong, don't you?
Crikey. I'd better generate me emulator save states in XML then :D.

I don't think anybody's arguing XML is never the right solution. We're just arguing that it's very often the wrong solution, but it gets used anyway.
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Dio wrote:
Jimaroid wrote:You all know that binary formats are wrong, don't you?
Crikey. I'd better generate me emulator save states in XML then :D.

I don't think anybody's arguing XML is never the right solution. We're just arguing that it's very often the wrong solution, but it gets used anyway.
I don't think anybody's arguing binary is never the right solution. We're just arguing that it's very often the wrong solution, but it gets used anyway.
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Dio wrote:I don't think anybody's arguing XML is never the right solution.
Er.. Gumboot is. There's a subtle shift to now focussing on XML is teh bad for config files from him but he's still spouting ridiculous nonsense like "ALL XML TOOLS ARE CRAP" and "ALL XML PARSING LIBRARIES ARE CRAP"

I think everyone else is pretty much in agreement
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Jimaroid wrote:I don't think anybody's arguing binary is never the right solution. We're just arguing that it's very often the wrong solution, but it gets used anyway.
Well, absolutely :D.
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PaulCunningham wrote:You'll have to try harder than that :)
What the hell - I wrote that in response to gumboot whose post was directly above mine :?
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PaulCunningham wrote:You'll have to try harder than that :)
Rats. I thought I'd struck the perfect level of dull-witted dismissiveness and disregard for what's being said that would be just your speed.
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:roll:

Other demos (from the past) that impressed me were several from farbrausch, candytron a particularly fave (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=9424). Oh, oh and the SOTA '04 intro by equinox (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=112 ... mments=100).

When I finally have to buy a new PC I'll be looking forward to checking out the new demos out now (and over the past 2 years).
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gravy wrote:Er.. Gumboot is. There's a subtle shift to now focussing on XML is teh bad for config files from him but he's still spouting ridiculous nonsense like "ALL XML TOOLS ARE CRAP" and "ALL XML PARSING LIBRARIES ARE CRAP"
You have to take it all so literally, don't you. It's just rant, and I would have thought that "they're all crap" would be fairly clear hyperbole (as if "universal wrong" could ever be a literally true statement). Perhaps I should have pointed that out earlier, but you only asked what was wrong with it, not why I said something that was clearly invalid.

I do maintain that XML is a bad tool (for basically the same reason as people say that it's a good thing [*]) in every situation that it's used for (hence the term "universal wrong"), but I'm not stupid enough to deny that it has advantages derived from the sheer mass of the circlejerk around it.

[*] there's so much more I could expound on what's wrong with it, but I was hesitant about getting involved in the topic in the first place and what's happened is pretty much what I was afraid would happen. It's not worth my time and I doubt it's worth others'.
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guythp wrote::roll:

Other demos (from the past) that impressed me were several from farbrausch, candytron a particularly fave (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=9424). Oh, oh and the SOTA '04 intro by equinox (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=112 ... mments=100).
Whoa...back on topic!
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Suddenly, it was Breakpoint 2008! 8)

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