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Re: SPACE
Great launch. That pitch maneuver came really quick after they left the tower, must have been because the launch was delayed a few days. Favorite part was the view from the tank as it dropped away, seeing the maneuvering jets firing.
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Interesting that during the final phase they run the main engines at 104%. Who wrote the operating manual for them, Scotty?
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I was wondering that. I mean, they presumably get the job done at 100%.RedOktober wrote:Interesting that during the final phase they run the main engines at 104%. Who wrote the operating manual for them, Scotty?
Why would they risk going in excess of that?
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They run at 104% from just before SRB sep. Official explanation of the figure:
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Since there usually is no such thing as greater than 100 percent how can the shuttle's main engines withstand 104 percent power up just before SRB separation? Doesn't this cause undue stress to the engines? What would be the difference if they were powered up to only 100 percent? Especially considering the density of the air at that altitude.
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That's a pretty good question. The engines were originally rated for a certain power level, a certain amount of thrust. Over the years we've done some upgrades and improvements. And now they can perform at -- surprise -- a 104 percent of their original design value. And that sounds pretty good when you say that you can do something at 104 percent so we just leave the number there. If we were to use them at their regular rate of 100 percent level, we would not get the performance we are looking for out of the engines and therefore we would have to burn the engines longer or rate them up again, which is what we do. So that is why we do that. It is 104 percent but was originally 100 percent.
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Since there usually is no such thing as greater than 100 percent how can the shuttle's main engines withstand 104 percent power up just before SRB separation? Doesn't this cause undue stress to the engines? What would be the difference if they were powered up to only 100 percent? Especially considering the density of the air at that altitude.
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That's a pretty good question. The engines were originally rated for a certain power level, a certain amount of thrust. Over the years we've done some upgrades and improvements. And now they can perform at -- surprise -- a 104 percent of their original design value. And that sounds pretty good when you say that you can do something at 104 percent so we just leave the number there. If we were to use them at their regular rate of 100 percent level, we would not get the performance we are looking for out of the engines and therefore we would have to burn the engines longer or rate them up again, which is what we do. So that is why we do that. It is 104 percent but was originally 100 percent.
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I've now got a mental image of a NASA engineer pointing at the engine and saying "These go to 11"

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Saw a piece on DMAX the other day about testing the Shuttle engines between flights... very interesting.
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