The 360 thread!

[disciple]

I've always hated rotatey type controls. The exception was the BBC B's Starship Command. This rotated the entire screen rather than just you.

Looks like the Liberator.

[Mark]

Ion Assault...No!

Spot on. Played this on PartnerNet a month or so ago, and it made my hands itch on the insides. It's just wrong. Same goes for Shred Nebula (also on XBLA) which tried a different combination of controls for a different flavour of wrongness. It's a similar feeling to trying to play an FPS with the Y-look axis set the opposite way to your normal preference.

I wonder if its any less hateful if you weren't raised on a diet of Asteroids and Robotron though.

[louiecat]

just dld the Forza 3 demo. Played with the wheel it handles niiiiiice - praps improved from number 2 but its all pretty much Forza: sterile precision racing thats dead immersive while you do it but not in the way DIRT or SHIFT are. The track available is well pretty and even has a tunnel!

[fog]

Ion Assault...No!

Spot on. Played this on PartnerNet a month or so ago, and it made my hands itch on the insides. It's just wrong. Same goes for Shred Nebula (also on XBLA) which tried a different combination of controls for a different flavour of wrongness. It's a similar feeling to trying to play an FPS with the Y-look axis set the opposite way to your normal preference.

I wonder if its any less hateful if you weren't raised on a diet of Asteroids and Robotron though.

I never liked the original Asteroids control method either so I'm maybe not the best judge on this one

At least those developers got their wish anyway. By ditching the twin stick controls they have indeed distanced themselves from other similar games, unfortunately by being less playable. Ironic.

[chub]

just dld the Forza 3 demo. Played with the wheel it handles niiiiiice - praps improved from number 2 but its all pretty much Forza: sterile precision racing thats dead immersive while you do it but not in the way DIRT or SHIFT are. The track available is well pretty and even has a tunnel!

Yeah, it's good stuff. I'm glad they've added a cockpit view in this one, and it seems like the handling's improved a bit from Forza 2. I like the rewind too, much more instantaneous than the one in Grid. I'm playing Shift at the moment, but only while I wait for Forza 3. I've got it on pre-order - can't wait!

[fog]

Pop Cap and Square team up for Gyromancer, which looks very much like a shiny version of Puzzle Quest.

[Jamesac]

Ion Assault...No!

Spot on. Played this on PartnerNet a month or so ago, and it made my hands itch on the insides. It's just wrong. Same goes for Shred Nebula (also on XBLA) which tried a different combination of controls for a different flavour of wrongness. It's a similar feeling to trying to play an FPS with the Y-look axis set the opposite way to your normal preference.

I wonder if its any less hateful if you weren't raised on a diet of Asteroids and Robotron though.

I never liked the original Asteroids control method either so I'm maybe not the best judge on this one

At least those developers got their wish anyway. By ditching the twin stick controls they have indeed distanced themselves from other similar games, unfortunately by being less playable. Ironic.

I found that putting rotation on the left stick in Gridrunner Revolution works pretty well. I can see it not being to everyone's taste, but in the right place it's pretty useful.

Plus, while it took me forever, I came to enjoy Asteroid controls quite a bit. You should have seen me the first time I tried to play it, though, back in an arcade when it was the first game I'd ever seen, age 12-ish. I wasn't quite so fond of it then.

James

[louiecat]

Yeah, it's good stuff. I'm glad they've added a cockpit view in this one, and it seems like the handling's improved a bit from Forza 2. I like the rewind too, much more instantaneous than the one in Grid. I'm playing Shift at the moment, but only while I wait for Forza 3. I've got it on pre-order - can't wait![/quote]


yeah - shift is super IMO - it occupies its own space and I am thoroughly enjoying it. But I save the 360 wheel for Forza, which is subtle enough to bring out the best in the wheel's capabilities.

[fog]

Spot on. Played this on PartnerNet a month or so ago, and it made my hands itch on the insides. It's just wrong. Same goes for Shred Nebula (also on XBLA) which tried a different combination of controls for a different flavour of wrongness. It's a similar feeling to trying to play an FPS with the Y-look axis set the opposite way to your normal preference.

I wonder if its any less hateful if you weren't raised on a diet of Asteroids and Robotron though.

I never liked the original Asteroids control method either so I'm maybe not the best judge on this one

At least those developers got their wish anyway. By ditching the twin stick controls they have indeed distanced themselves from other similar games, unfortunately by being less playable. Ironic.

I found that putting rotation on the left stick in Gridrunner Revolution works pretty well. I can see it not being to everyone's taste, but in the right place it's pretty useful.

Well I wasn't aware GR used "stick to rotate" controls and as I haven't tried it I can't say whether it works well or not. My comments were aimed at the various recent XBLA & XBIG releases that I have tried which just don't work.

Just wanted to clear that up

[eegypt]

Pop Cap and Square team up for Gyromancer, which looks very much like a shiny version of Puzzle Quest.

That looks rad! I'm pretty excited cuz I loved Puzzle Quest but the sequel, Galactrix, was poopy.

[Col]

Why are the console bundles in game shops always so uninspiring? I'm getting an Elite in around a weeks time and I'm struggling to decide what offer I want to go with.

Game did have the Elite with Call of Duty 4 and Fight Night 4 for £200, but in all their wisdom they've decided to stop doing it.

[Flabio]

They're doing one with Forza3 in a few weeks if you can hang on. Or there's a Modern Warfare 2 one on the way. They both come with the new 250gig hard drive as well.

[ESY]

Brutal Legend. As someone that was obsessed by Heavy Metal as a kid (drew HM landscapes, logos etc) this is IT. The demo is brilliant and I can't wait now. I am not sure at all where the RTS label is coming from - I can't see this mutating into one. But even if it does, I am sure it will be done well. The demo is as funny as hell. Jack Black is perfect. This is the game that I want NOW.

[Mark]

Brutal Legend. As someone that was obsessed by Heavy Metal as a kid (drew HM landscapes, logos etc) this is IT. The demo is brilliant and I can't wait now. I am not sure at all where the RTS label is coming from - I can't see this mutating into one. But even if it does, I am sure it will be done well. The demo is as funny as hell. Jack Black is perfect. This is the game that I want NOW.

Isn't the RTS part the multiplayer aspect? I could be wrong, but I seem to recall reading that somewhere.

I believe the demo is US-only at the moment, sadly. It certainly wasn't there when I checked after first hearing about it.

[Phineasfool]

Brutal Legend. As someone that was obsessed by Heavy Metal as a kid (drew HM landscapes, logos etc) this is IT. The demo is brilliant and I can't wait now. I am not sure at all where the RTS label is coming from - I can't see this mutating into one. But even if it does, I am sure it will be done well. The demo is as funny as hell. Jack Black is perfect. This is the game that I want NOW.

The RTS part is just a small part after you get the headbanging guys. You can control them like an RTS.