Send them back where they came from

[Muphex]

To quote the great Stephen Fry.....

Religion......shit it!

[gilesgoat]

Their English can be far from being perfect, yet I agree that if someone moved from his own country to another, it's because they liked the second country more, and they can have a better life there, so what's the point in trying to turn the second country into a copy of the first one (also considering that who already lives in the second country likes it less or more the way it is, and certainly doesn't like to move to the first one)?

Well just to be fair sometime the situation is just a bit "complex".

Speaking for myself, I am NOT British and I am NEVER going to be, not even if I am going to stay a million of years in
Britain there are so many things about "britishness" that they simply are not my nature and they can't be at all, let's
not forget that "understanding and tollerance" <> "acceptance".

Anyway I can complain about the crap coffe, the crap weather, the crap whatever and all the fuck I don't like
about Britain but I certainly CAN'T and WON'T go around streets marching or pretending British people to be/do Italian
things in Britain

With ONE exception, but this you have to agree with me is a different thing, IT COMPLETELY PISSES ME OFF
all those places that CLAIM "to do Italian stuff ( food mostly ) " or even worse ORIGINAL ITALIAN STUFF
and they do shite that you'll NEVER see in Italy done that way.

But that is a different story, if you do a thing pretending TO BE "as in Italy" and you do it in a way that has nothing
to do with Italy then DO NOT call yourself "italian" .. you are doing very bad for the image and things Italy produces and
worst of all when people finally comes to Italy and have the REAL things find "oh, it's all different".

Bullshit, if I really want to do British stuff I am going ( at least ) to ask someone really British to explain me how it is done
and check it and/or at least I am NOT going to claim "this is real British" because I don't have the knowledge about it.

Anyway, this is "the only situation" where I become "5000% racist with absolutely no remorse/fear" and I start to be
incredibly upset, you sell "Italian food" you really sell/do it "as that", there's NO such thing as "yes it's Italian but done
the British way otherwise British people don't like it " .. what ? .. EH ?

I am going to make a cup of tea with COLD water than and Lipton INSTANT peach tea and say "this is a British cuppa"
maybe even attaching on a label with a picture of the queen saying "approved by her majesty" ..

And sell it in Italy in one of those "original British pubs" .. the sad thing is that as I write this there's a possibility
that somene, somewhere in Italy is exactly doing that .. .. and charging people 10 euro or so for that "cuppa"

Besides I should start the Facebook group "let's destroy all the Irish pubs around the world out of Ireland"

Ok digression apart, sometime you change country really because "you don't have another choice", in a perfect place
( that does not exist ) I'd be coding on a sunny beach under a plam tree with a caipirinha in my hand, Yak will be
full of curry and tea all around the sheep would be enjoying the sun with lots and lots of fresh nice grass and I'd have
a unicorn with sunglasses and a pina colada waiting for me later to have some fun, I would code just for fun not for money.

And, of course, I would not have any single though about any racism of any kind

But unfortunately, I am in Britain, surrounded by British people and rain struggling to make things going and there's no
fucking espresso or such thankfully I can still buy Lavazza and I have my moka.

There's not even an Italian around here ( none I ever seen ) and the only one I've seen once did even forget about how
to speak Italian "because he's been too many years here"

The only one that wants to speak Italian with me all time is .. .. the guy from Bangladesh down
the curry house ( which are some of our best friends ) that been in Milan quite some years and loved the city and such and
.. he speaks Italian quite well

So I talk Italian about Milan ( which I've seen only a few times ), Mr Leepu and curry ..

.. meanwhile the rain pours down outside .. and the smell of massala pervades the room while a sitar is playing ..

And now my mum is learning English and wants to speak English with me .. I am doomed ..

Ah yes I forgot, our Japanese friend speaks Italian and Welsh, I am trying to speak some Japanese.

My other friend was German, the other one was Hungarian, the other one speaks Swedish .. then let's see what other
I have .. Norway .. Finland .. Slovenia .. Hroatia .. Serbia .. Russia .. south america .. Brazil .. Portugal ..

.. I know nothing about racism

[betamax]

these islamic people think they can rule any country with there corner shops takeaways giving them free NHS

This just made my decade. How I wish you could get takeaways from the local A&E, or-better still!- pop into The Balti Spice for a spot of surgery!

[PVB]

Their English can be far from being perfect, yet I agree that if someone moved from his own country to another, it's because they liked the second country more, and they can have a better life there, so what's the point in trying to turn the second country into a copy of the first one (also considering that who already lives in the second country likes it less or more the way it is, and certainly doesn't like to move to the first one)?

It's a good job the British never do this when they move abroad.

It's also how the British Empire was created.

[gilesgoat]

Their English can be far from being perfect, yet I agree that if someone moved from his own country to another, it's because they liked the second country more, and they can have a better life there, so what's the point in trying to turn the second country into a copy of the first one (also considering that who already lives in the second country likes it less or more the way it is, and certainly doesn't like to move to the first one)?

It's a good job the British never do this when they move abroad.

It's also how the British Empire was created.

... 1.12 and that's is where all it is gone ...
.. 0.619 and that's another problem ..
.. 17.5% and that's another one ..
77.4 .. lower than Italy ..

Empires come and go .. numbers remain .. we are people but we live by numbers ..

[ElfQrin]

Their English can be far from being perfect, yet I agree that if someone moved from his own country to another, it's because they liked the second country more, and they can have a better life there, so what's the point in trying to turn the second country into a copy of the first one (also considering that who already lives in the second country likes it less or more the way it is, and certainly doesn't like to move to the first one)?

It's a good job the British never do this when they move abroad.

It's also how the British Empire was created.

The difference is that European governments decided to invade other territories to colonise them, while we are talking about people who left (even escaped) their countries because their lives were unpleasant where they come from.

[Wudzi]

The difference is that European governments decided to invade other territories to colonise them, while we are talking about people who left (even escaped) their countries because their lives were unpleasant where they come from.

Good on the European governments I say.

[HGFB]

I SAY ALL MUSLIMS FUCK OFF BK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY M8, UK IS ENGLISH N ENGLISH PPL LIVE THERE ...SHOULDNT BE BOMBERS THERE !!! FUCK OFF BK TO BOMBISTAN

[Wudzi]

Is anyone here Kan Ye West?

[grue]

I SAY ALL MUSLIMS FUCK OFF BK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY M8, UK IS ENGLISH N ENGLISH PPL LIVE THERE ...SHOULDNT BE BOMBERS THERE !!! FUCK OFF BK TO BOMBISTAN

[KlaxonCow]

ROMANES EUNT DOMUS!

[bumblebee]

The difference is that European governments decided to invade other territories to colonise them, while we are talking about people who left (even escaped) their countries because their lives were unpleasant where they come from.

Do you know why their lives are unpleasant where they come from?

Well just to be fair sometime the situation is just a bit "complex".

Correct. I would also not call what is happening necessarily racism but just pent up dissatisfaction with everything that has been directed (media, thanks a lot) and nourished (go'ment, too) into a monster. To Mulims their religion is where xtianiy was good 1K years ago and besides being the basis of their faith, it is also the basis of their laws and most importantly, identity. Being a foreigner puts stress on identity and if this is not enough they get their own countries pretty messed up by Amis and Europeans for a loooong time now. If you observe things from their stand point, there is a lot to be unhappy about. Doesn't excuse guys who blow themselves up, but might explain some of their reasoning (if one can call it this way).

[Mayhem]

I've never understood why having a prejudice against a certain religion is tagged with the term "racism" anyways. Anyone can be of a certain faith, be it Christian, Muslim, Buddism or Hinduism. Technically. You get white Christians, black Christians, white Muslims and black Muslims. Or is it just a simple way of still differentiating on colour because most Christians in the UK are white and most Muslims are not?

[Tmuk]

I've never understood why having a prejudice against a certain religion is tagged with the term "racism" anyways. Anyone can be of a certain faith, be it Christian, Muslim, Buddism or Hinduism. Technically. You get white Christians, black Christians, white Muslims and black Muslims. Or is it just a simple way of still differentiating on colour because most Christians in the UK are white and most Muslims are not?

I think it's just a convenient way of silencing dissent. Criticise Islam? RACIST! SHUT UP IMMEDIATELY!

[Dungeon-Dave]

I've never understood why having a prejudice against a certain religion is tagged with the term "racism" anyways.

It's just conflating the religion of the person with the race of the person; many religions tend to observe race or geographical boundaries, so prejudice against that religion tends to extend to the entire race.

I still agree the terminology is wrong, mind.