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piku wrote:I'd consider paying £200 (or whatever it was) for an iPhone, only to find 12 months later there's a better one out a good definition for being "screwed over".

I'd expect to get more than a year's worth of use out of my device before it was made obsolete.
It doesn't suddenly stop working after that year does it? it still does all the stuff that it did when you bought it in the first place so why do you consider it obsolete?

Car manufacturers bring out new models every year but that doesn't suddenly make the old one obsolete or somehow less than it was the day before does it?
Exactly. There have been a few cases where Apple have royally fucked their users over (in many cases to do with issuing "lemons", and then very quietly offering to replace the : see 5300 powerbooks) , but "releasing a new version with added bits and pieces" isn't one of them. In the majority of cases, they support hardware for a lot longer than one might consider "reasonable" - my G4/400 laptop still works with OSX 10.4.11, released in 2007, more than 6 years after the machine was itself released, and it's far from being the earliest machine that release will run on; any 333+Mhz G3 with built in USB will handle it, IIRC, which makes for 9 years or more of support on "latest release" OS. Of course, now those machines won't go any further without some hackage, but even without, it doesn't stop them being reasonable.

All* tech is obsolete the moment you take it out of the store. I can see 12 days or so being annoying, but 12 months? Get real.

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Misfit wrote: It was a little over a year between the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 3G. How is that screwed over?
I'd consider paying £200 (or whatever it was) for an iPhone, only to find 12 months later there's a better one out a good definition for being "screwed over".

I'd expect to get more than a year's worth of use out of my device before it was made obsolete. It's annoying being on this daft cycle of disposable tech that goes out of date the second the hype dies down. You know, I'm typing this on a 2007 model Macbook which by all Apple standards is obsolete and needs replacing... but since it cost me 700 quid I'm not getting rid of it until it actually breaks down or is too slow to be usable.
Lol. What are "Apple Standards"?
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piku wrote:
Misfit wrote: It was a little over a year between the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 3G. How is that screwed over?
I'd consider paying £200 (or whatever it was) for an iPhone, only to find 12 months later there's a better one out a good definition for being "screwed over".

I'd expect to get more than a year's worth of use out of my device before it was made obsolete.
Don't buy an Apple computer then, as they release better ones every year and they cost a hell of a lot more!

I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've had an original iPhone, but don't all the OS updates still work on the original iPhone?

That doesn't seem that obsolete to me?
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You're still waiting? Won't the design and specs be horribly out of date by the time it's released?

I'd be wanting my money back by now so I could spend it on a real device I can actually use today; an Android phone, an iPhone or even one of those Dingoo A320 thingies. You lot have been waiting years for this thing to be made...
Yeah, why am I still waiting? I guess because it's paid for I've kinda forgotten the cash.

The specs are certainly no longer cutting edge, but still pretty current.

I will wait a bit longer, but don't have high hopes of it being more than a 5 minute wonder for me now.
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Darkflame wrote:My view is simple; For $500 theres a lot better "casual surfing" devices out there, and with that screen it would suck for reading eBooks.

(Might be the best thing for comics, mind you....If Apple lets a CBR reader be released and theres some easy way to copy the comics onto it)

I like the new Eee PC however;
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It has multitouch, solid state, etc.
Only it also such wonderfull innovations as usb slots and card-readers :)
Yes, after looking at various Eee PC's, I think I'm more likely to pick up one of those and leave the iPad to others. The Eee PC wont be coated in magical unicorn tears like Apple products are, but I'll survive. :)
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gravy wrote:Willing to bet with anyone there won't be any flash :D What odds will you give me? ;)
No flash indirectly confirmed

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/30/app ... apability/
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Misfit wrote: I will wait a bit longer, but don't have high hopes of it being more than a 5 minute wonder for me now.
That sucks. Apple hardware may be obsolete the minute Jobs glides off the stage, but at least you can buy the stuff he raves about.

PS: Best browsing experience ever? Hmm... "not without flash". And look, it can have background pictures so you can personalise your device.

It'll be interesting to see all the cheap Linux based knockoffs that pop out. I imagine DealExtreme will sell some sort of Chinese 'ePad MP4,JPG,Web,MP3,WIFI,TOUCHSCREEN' device in a year :)
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gravy wrote:
gravy wrote:Willing to bet with anyone there won't be any flash :D What odds will you give me? ;)
No flash indirectly confirmed

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/30/app ... apability/
Probably down to someone filing a complaint with the FCC about misleading advertising.
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piku wrote: It'll be interesting to see all the cheap Linux based knockoffs that pop out. I imagine DealExtreme will sell some sort of Chinese 'ePad MP4,JPG,Web,MP3,WIFI,TOUCHSCREEN' device in a year :)
And it'll be shit.
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korruptor wrote:
piku wrote: It'll be interesting to see all the cheap Linux based knockoffs that pop out. I imagine DealExtreme will sell some sort of Chinese 'ePad MP4,JPG,Web,MP3,WIFI,TOUCHSCREEN' device in a year :)
And it'll be shit.
No doubt, but that's part of the fun - seeing just how shite someone can make a ripoff bit of hardware. Chintendo Vii anyone? ;)

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There's already enough on the iPad to make it worth it for me, extrapolating to what it's likely to become I'm really looking forward to it.
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RiK wrote:There's already enough on the iPad to make it worth it for me, extrapolating to what it's likely to become I'm really looking forward to it.
I made a prediction on IRC that you'd have one within two months from it being available. I bet HGFB is preparing his tent and sleeping bag right now ;)
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If Apple would let me I'd have preordered one already. It's perfect for me.
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Well I gotta result today. Got hubby drunk at Harvey Nicks and then managed to convince him that an iPad would be so much easier for him than the (almost) brand new MacBook Pro he currently has (and which I only get to play with every Friday from 9-5 for my studio work). He only really uses it for surfing email and the calender anyway. Roll on iPad launch :)
Now with a new Mac Mini Pro so dont judge me !
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piku wrote:
RiK wrote:There's already enough on the iPad to make it worth it for me, extrapolating to what it's likely to become I'm really looking forward to it.
I made a prediction on IRC that you'd have one within two months from it being available. I bet HGFB is preparing his tent and sleeping bag right now ;)
Day one innit :)
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