iPad

[Misfit]

Regardless of the performance under benchmarks, the fact is that the iDevices have changed the way people browse the web and any developer creating new stuff now would be mad not to test their site against them to ensure they perform well and even take advantage of their features.

Already the big companies see the need GMail for example is brilliant on the iPad/iPhone and the BBC have a specific iPlayer site for them.

The only slowness I've experienced in real life use is on sites that popup a picture in a panel that opens over the page. These open a little slowly.

[Misfit]

You'll have to wait for a while. HP have cancelled theirs and MSs courier project is also canned.

Do you think they saw the iPad and realised their user experience sucked? The HP tablet looked very nice, but it was trying to do it on Windows 7. Which whilst better for touch still is really not much more than all the touch tablets we've had in the past.

[disciple]

I'd hardly call it zero experince given the benchmark is written by Webkit.

No, you have zero experience of it.

I don't see that having much relevance. It's a tablet running a web app on a web browser, ownership isn't required for someone to post a benchmark showing that raw JavaScript performance is low and is about equivalent to an iPhone.

I'm betting most folk looking to purchase an iPad will already have access to an iPhone which puts the performance perfectly in context. If someone is thinking about dropping £400-500 on one of these then I'm squarely of the opinion that it's better to do so informed.

Your implication that I trawl sites looking for anti-iPad articles is ridiculous.

[Barney]

Surely there's no real comparison there? I mean, most macbooks run x86 at 1ghz+, yes? iPhone runs around 500mhz, iirc and ARM at that. I'm not sure what speed the iPad runs at, but I suspect it's comparable to the iPhone, if not a tad faster. My GF's bottom of the range netbook is a 1.6ghz atom.

And surely one of the limiting factors for javascript performance will in some way be the host CPU speed? I mean, it has to be interpreted, yes?

[Deckard]

Anyone running Backgrounder on their iPad ? Work Ok ?

[Misfit]

Anyone running Backgrounder on their iPad ? Work Ok ?

Not had chance yet. Hopefully in the next day or two. Will sport back....

[Misfit]

I'm betting most folk looking to purchase an iPad will already have access to an iPhone which puts the performance perfectly in context. If someone is thinking about dropping £400-500 on one of these then I'm squarely of the opinion that it's better to do so informed.

Anyone stupid enough to lay down the cash isn't going to be dissapointed.

I really wanted the iPad to be 5" and have full flash (see second post of thread). It's neither and I still find it bloody awesome....

[teamonkey]

Gmail is the most complex Javascript app in my workflow. That performs without any slow down at all when i use it on my iPhone or iPad.

Facebook is pretty JS oriented and works absolutely fine.

I believe Facebook and GMail both serve JS-light sites optimised for the iPad so they're no real indicator. JavaScript is appallingly slow on the 3G, way too slow to do anything remotely Flash-like, and it's not much better on the iTouch 2. I've tried.

Hopefully 4.0 will come with a massive speed boost for mobile Safari, otherwise HTML5 is dead in the water as a Flash replacement, at least on the iPhones.

[gravy]

Gmail is the most complex Javascript app in my workflow. That performs without any slow down at all when i use it on my iPhone or iPad.

Facebook is pretty JS oriented and works absolutely fine.

I believe Facebook and GMail both serve JS-light sites optimised for the iPad so they're no real indicator. JavaScript is appallingly slow on the 3G, way too slow to do anything remotely Flash-like, and it's not much better on the iTouch 2. I've tried.

You're wrong with Facebook, you get the same site on the iPad as with any desktop browser. It works just as well too. Theres touch.facebook.com designed for touch devices but again that doesn't seem to be JS lite, just different.

Hopefully 4.0 will come with a massive speed boost for mobile Safari, otherwise HTML5 is dead in the water as a Flash replacement, at least on the iPhones.

You've got different expectations to me. If JS is used to do exactly what it is now AND it allows streaming video then that'll do all I want out of it.

I don't want shit browser games in either flash or JS. I suspect that if only video delivery is replaced by HTML5 it'll be flash that's dealt the death blow.

[Deckard]

Now this is a big want just the price of a Wiimote in my bag and all the SNES games ! Can't seem to paste the YouTube clip but worth watching here - http://toucharcade.com/2010/05/05/jailb ... emulators/

[Misfit]

Now this is a big want just the price of a Wiimote in my bag and all the SNES games ! Can't seem to paste the YouTube clip but worth watching here - http://toucharcade.com/2010/05/05/jailb ... emulators/

Nice.

A quick look at ModMyi suggests lots of interesting things are appear for the jail broken pad. How to make you iPhone apps really full screen, dash board widgets and activating voice control sound cool. Although voice control always managed to call someone when I tried to change track whilst driving on my iPhone, so I gave up on that!

Got tons to do today, so instead will jailbreak my iPad and see what is going on...

/edit

Well that was easy. Spirit did the job in seconds (once I'd solved a small error)

The final error code displayed by Spirit was “error code: c0000138″

I solved it and executed successfully the JB after I copied the file c:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\libeay32.dll to c:\Windows\System32\

Now let's have a look at Cydia...

[Misfit]

SBSettings works fine (after a respring as sprigboard comes up in iPhone mode).

Backrounder works a treat to.



That's me sorted.

[Cloudane]

Thanks for the report. Might give it a try!

[GeeZa]

Anyone managed to 3G tether a newly Spirit JB 3.1.3 iPhone to a Wifi iPad? If it works, I'm going to take the plunge.

[Misfit]

Anyone managed to 3G tether a newly Spirit JB 3.1.3 iPhone to a Wifi iPad? If it works, I'm going to take the plunge.

The spirit jailbreak is so easy, it would be silly not to try!

Do you mean using something like MyWi?

Haven't tried it, but can see no reason that wouldn't work.

It can certainly be done on a normal jailbreak phone and this should be no different....