Newzbin gone

[t0ne]

Looks as if newzbin is no more

[isomies]

Must have been a member for 8 (?) years.

Very sad.

Same old argument - how come you can find torrents for copyrighted material on Google and that's ok, but a service that finds articles for content on usenet isn't OK?

[piku]

Same old argument - how come you can find torrents for copyrighted material on Google and that's ok, but a service that finds articles for content on usenet isn't OK?

Google is bigger and has more money to defend itself?

[Devlin]

I was a member for about 3 years until I stopped using Usenet.

Damn shame, as the site was fantastic for finding stuff on Usenet really easily :/

[Dungeon-Dave]

I found it (and its sister site) pretty useful...

/me mourns a loss...

[happy_jack]

Yea tis a shame.. seems a lot of people just moved over to: http://nzbmatrix.com

Looks ok from the 2 mins I spent on there, but theres talk of the source being hacked from Newzbin so only a matter of time before a clone site crops up.

[WiteWulf]

Give http://binsearch.info a try, too...

[benedictw]

If they are now going after usenet providers, is there a risk that they might also get direct access logs from companies with pay-to-download servers ? (IE better evidence that it was your account that downloaded X? )

[Dungeon-Dave]

AIUI, no - since there's a privacy issue at stake there: someone will require usenet providers to hand over logs detailing what content was downloaded and from where, then onto ISPs to match particular IPs to names/address of holders.

I think there *are* some reported cases of a few ISPs sending C&D letters to some account holders as a warning - "you've been discovered, we're not handing over logs, but DON'T DO IT AGAIN" situation - I believe Virgin did it at one time, but they had a vested interest in the content that was being downloaded.

Doesn't stop someone setting up a sting operation, mind. That's been successful in the past (FBI did one with credit cards), but not sure of the legalities involved.

[Misfit]

Or not gone. Just got this by email...

Hi ex-Newzbin user.

Lamenting the departed site? Dreading doing Usenet the old skool
way? Think the clone NZB sites suck?

Good news: we are Newzbin Two, and we have glad tidings:
NEWZBIN IS BACK! and we are the new management. The crew got most
of the original Newzbin source code and the main databases.
We loved it too much to let it die.

The catch? We wont be up for a very short while cos things need
to be done. For starters we need a cool domain name; also we
need to hack on the code some more to make it run. We are nearly
there but it is very complicated. We reckon we'll up very soon.

So don't drift off to those lame-ass wannabe NZB sites. Hang on
for a little longer and the Big Dog will be back.
For news keep an eye on these news sites:
http://deepsharer.wordpress.com/
http://www.usenetshack.com/
http://torrentfreak.com/


Mr White
Team R Dogs/Newzbin2

[Rubisco]

Same old argument - how come you can find torrents for copyrighted material on Google and that's ok, but a service that finds articles for content on usenet isn't OK?

Google is bigger and has more money to defend itself?

Well this, along with a heavy dose of good old fashioned geek-bashing.

If anyone can access infringing content without needing any knowledge other than how to click a link, then it's acceptable for some reason.

But if you happen to know your arse from your elbow and try to download the exact same content by more complicated means, then you're filthy pirating scum!

[Cloudane]

Always strikes me as a pointless battle. Other sites will pop up, and the cycle will continue.

[Misfit]

If people hadn't noticed Newzbin is back.

Same domain name, same logins, and it's indexing everything again too.

[VNVObit]

AIUI, no - since there's a privacy issue at stake there: someone will require usenet providers to hand over logs detailing what content was downloaded and from where, then onto ISPs to match particular IPs to names/address of holders.

I think there *are* some reported cases of a few ISPs sending C&D letters to some account holders as a warning - "you've been discovered, we're not handing over logs, but DON'T DO IT AGAIN" situation - I believe Virgin did it at one time, but they had a vested interest in the content that was being downloaded.

Doesn't stop someone setting up a sting operation, mind. That's been successful in the past (FBI did one with credit cards), but not sure of the legalities involved.

So what's the position if the ISP's news server is full of binaries? ( looking at you BT)

[t0ne]

If people hadn't noticed Newzbin is back.

Same domain name, same logins, and it's indexing everything again too.

Funnily enough I thought about checking to see if anything new had sprung up on the domain yesterday, but got sidetracked and forgot. Good to see it back.