Raspberry Pi

[Cloudane]

that said i had a look at the web browsing vid yesterday and it seemed to refresh really slow when scrolling down a page... don't really follow how it can play hd flawlessly but do that... unless of course the demonstrator was clicking the bar down not holding the button

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[adam]

am not understanding embedding but is here:

[Stuart B]

Work have a nice write up here:

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Vi ... 022012.htm

Was nice to see a piccie of the thing on the side of the front page of the print edition too

[toxibunny]

that said i had a look at the web browsing vid yesterday and it seemed to refresh really slow when scrolling down a page... don't really follow how it can play hd flawlessly but do that... unless of course the demonstrator was clicking the bar down not holding the button

there's no hardware acceleration on the desktop yet. they're working on it.

[Jimaroid]

I assume it's just using the framebuffer device at the moment. So it will be a lot slower than it's capable of, however the responsiveness in that video doesn't look like rendering lag alone.

[Firefox]

Meanwhile, no Farnell delivery at work today. So no bits to build my Super Urgent Top Priority project from.

[Meatpuppet]

Really not sure why we need this. There are mountains of unused PC's that should be recycled, instead of scrapped by Schools/Universities - teaching programming is not a matter of platform, rather discipline. More 'niche' tech junk is not the answer.

[tufty]

Anyone expecting a stellar media centre is gonna get really fucking disappointed, really fucking quick.

It comes with hardware suport for 2 video codecs. Or, put another way, if you want hd, you're probably going to have to rerip or transcode.

A roku 2 (which uses the same soc) would be a better buy, as it comes with a full complement of codecs, a case, a power supply, wifi, and is only marginally more expensive (from $49).

[Baggypants]

Anyone expecting a stellar media centre is gonna get really fucking disappointed, really fucking quick.

It comes with hardware suport for 2 video codecs. Or, put another way, if you want hd, you're probably going to have to rerip or transcode.

A roku 2 (which uses the same soc) would be a better buy, as it comes with a full complement of codecs, a case, a power supply, wifi, and is only marginally more expensive (from $49).

I feel anyone expecting a stellar media center has missed the point somewhat.

[disciple]

Anyone expecting a stellar media centre is gonna get really fucking disappointed, really fucking quick.

It comes with hardware suport for 2 video codecs. Or, put another way, if you want hd, you're probably going to have to rerip or transcode.

Or fucking decode on the fucking CPU, or fucking demux.

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Fucking Codecs

Two licensed fucking codecs will be provided at fucking launch, MPEG4 and fucking h.264.  Codec licences have quite an impact of the cost of the device which is why there are only two at this fucking stage. There are non-licensed Codecs such at MPEG2, VC1 etc, but for the moment they will not be accelerated by the fucking GPU.

Dom adds: As an aside, the GPU can hardware decode H264, MPEG1/2/4, VC1, AVS, MJPG at fucking 1080p30. It can software (but still vector accelerated) decode VP6, VP7, VP8, RV, Theora, WMV9 at DVD fucking resolutions. We are restricted due to licensing what we can fucking support. We should be able to support VP8, MJPG and fucking Theora, as I believe they are license fucking free.

[adam]

[tufty]

So, 2 gpu codecs, and the rest in software on a 700mhz arm11. Yes, there's lots of stuff that *can* be done by the gpu, but it won't be being done, because codec licenses cost money.

You will not get 1080p on anything other than the gpu accelerated stuff.

Meanwhile, the 'education' bit is being totally overlooked. Makes me want to cry.

[Darkflame]

People will learn that big powerfull company's charge for codec use.
People will thus learn why supporting free and preferably open solutions is better.

That said, I still think "plug play and youtube" is a strong usecase for a lot of people.

Really not sure why we need this. There are mountains of unused PC's that should be recycled, instead of scrapped by Schools/Universities - teaching programming is not a matter of platform, rather discipline.

In general use, but it is a tad easier to teach if everyone has the exact same, working, hardware no? Especially if they can take it home with them.

[Rubisco]

So, 2 gpu codecs, and the rest in software on a 700mhz arm11. Yes, there's lots of stuff that *can* be done by the gpu, but it won't be being done, because codec licenses cost money.

You will not get 1080p on anything other than the gpu accelerated stuff.

Meanwhile, the 'education' bit is being totally overlooked. Makes me want to cry.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't h.264 the codec used in most hooky HD downloads?

[Colonius]

Meanwhile, the 'education' bit is being totally overlooked. Makes me want to cry.

Agreed. Yes there are lots of PCs around and enough free dev tools for anyone but the chance for a child to have something that isn't the main home PC (which from my experience is a thing that has to work as email, web and office) and so can be trashed is great. The fact that an education program is being put around is commendable - I wonder if there will a market for peripatetic IT teachers to run lessons in schools rather than relying on existing teachers.

The fact that the Pi can run xbmc, mame or whatever else is interesting bug not the main point as far as I am concerned.