Are we talking about Oolite ? It is a rather perfect complete rip-off of Elite, with mostly the same ship and station geometry but of course, higher res. Looks alot more Elite than Frontier.
I can see why they'd have issues with it. However, it really didn't do much with today's hardware so I am hoping the official new Elite has a bit more candy. The small videos we have seen so far are promising in that respect. I'd be a very happy camper if we get a good looking deep space sim, they are too rare these days, way too rare.
No I am talking about Elite the new kind which was a reverse engineer of the original bbC version and then written in c++. The author received a cease and desist, this was on,y a few years ago long long after Elite had any commercial value.
Oh, it still exists, on numerous hard drives around the world. Indeed the tenacious can still find it online, or at least this was possible a year or so ago. If Breadbin was smart, He'd bung TNK in with any kickstarter over a fiver and give Christian a kickback.
If Mr. Pinder is on here, could he tell us what happened with the Ian Bell collaboration?
/edit and cheers for TnK, which must be my most played Elite.
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venusian wrote:This kickstarter suggests that it's far from true that Elite has no commercial value.
No, it doesn't - fans are buying into the nostalgia and the name.
Fans are buying into the notalgia and the name of Elite. That is to say, Elite has value, into which fans are buying. The buying is happening of Elite (the thing with value). Elite's value is being bought into by the fans. The value of Elite is being monetised by this kickstarter. In terms of money Elite has value which is being bought by the fans. Are we getting there yet? It takes a special kind of blindness not to see that a clone of Elite called "Elite The New Kind" doesn't dilute the name, the brand, the nostalgia and thus the commercial value of Elite.
venusian wrote:This kickstarter suggests that it's far from true that Elite has no commercial value.
No, it doesn't - fans are buying into the nostalgia and the name.
Fans are buying into the notalgia and the name of Elite. That is to say, Elite has value, into which fans are buying. The buying is happening of Elite (the thing with value). Elite's value is being bought into by the fans. The value of Elite is being monetised by this kickstarter. In terms of money Elite has value which is being bought by the fans. Are we getting there yet? It takes a special kind of blindness not to see that a clone of Elite called "Elite The New Kind" doesn't dilute the name, the brand, the nostalgia and thus the commercial value of Elite.
So if it doesnt dilute the value why was it suppressed by Braben ? It was at most seen by a tiny percentage of the world, but those who saw it loved it.
Well, most obviously, trademark law states that you must defend your trademarks or lose them. Although I doubt that was the underlying reason in this case.
I wrote:It takes a special kind of blindness not to see that a clone of Elite called "Elite The New Kind" doesn't dilute the name, the brand, the nostalgia and thus the commercial value of Elite.
So if it doesnt dilute the value why was it suppressed by Braben ? It was at most seen by a tiny percentage of the world, but those who saw it loved it.
Sorry, I had one too many "not"s in there. Clearly it does dilute the brand.
It is a rather perfect complete rip-off of Elite, with mostly the same ship and station geometry but of course, higher res. Looks alot more Elite than Frontier.
Fans are buying into the notalgia and the name of Elite. That is to say, Elite has value, into which fans are buying. The buying is happening of Elite (the thing with value). Elite's value is being bought into by the fans. The value of Elite is being monetised by this kickstarter. In terms of money Elite has value which is being bought by the fans. Are we getting there yet? It takes a special kind of blindness not to see that a clone of Elite called "Elite The New Kind" doesn't dilute the name, the brand, the nostalgia and thus the commercial value of Elite.
, but it's still a commercial value.
