Photo Comp March 2013 - "Snaps of Churches"

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Photo Comp - Mar 2013 - Your Winner:

Poll ended at Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:09 am 0

PFVA
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Tufty
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Dvorak
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11%
Stuart B
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Meow
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Total votes: 18

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Photo Comp March 2013 - "Snaps of Churches"

Post by RiK »

Right then folks.. After the 'debate' last month, this months winner Paul (Zoot) has suggested that we do what was requested last month and so, as a one-off break from the usual 'anything goes' approach this month's theme also has a technical requirement of snaps only, no processing, and no 'pro' cameras.

Here's what Paul had to say:
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Right, I think that I won last months – just (and I like PFVA’s shot!). I am glad, however, as I know what I want to do for the next month’s, and would be grateful if you could somehow transcribe the following into a post (word for word would be preferable)...........

Theme: Churches

Having looked thoroughly through the debate started by OnlyIntruder, I think that there is real merit in what he suggests. I wouldn’t like to see restrictions on the photo competition every month, but it is reasonable to have an occasional “level playing field”.

I have thought long and hard about how this can be achieved, because it is not as simple as it would appear on the surface. OnlyIntruder suggests “That Mobile Moment” but that in itself is potentially exclusive – RiK’s iPhone 5 has a much better camera than my iPhone 4, some of us may not have smart phones, others may not have a camera phone at all. However, I believe that the thing that OnlyIntruder was getting at was that it should be a snapshot.

So, for this month only, here are three additional rules:

1. The photo must be taken with a camera with a non-detachable lens. This includes all phones, and compacts, but excludes Compact Systems Cameras, SLRs and the like.

2. NO processing is allowed. The shot must be exactly as taken i.e. a snapshot, and anything that shows the slightest hint of Instagram or anything else will be disqualified!

3. The entry MUST be taken within the month of the competition.


I hope that this is a reasonable attempt to address what is a valid point. Now, onto the theme.........

I shied away from the suggestion that it should be open to a snapshot of anything. I think that a theme is important, as it gets you to go out and take photographs which is a specific part of the competition ethos. My theme for this month, then, is churches. It doesn’t matter what – typical, artistic, historic. Churches are a wealth of photographic opportunities, and you should think outside the box. Go inside and see what you might find in there – photographs are usually allowed, but you might be encouraged to drop a couple of quid into the box for roof repairs
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There we go then. Not the usual rules, but obviously the usual deadline of the 25th please.

Happy snapping...
Zoot wrote:OK, here's my shortlist:

PFVA (although I also liked the Church entry shot)
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TUFTY - love the bleakness of this shot
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DVORAK - Just as I requested, out of the box, and a great example of auto contrast.
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Stuart B - very similar to a shot that I took of Beveley Minster. It's a shame that the very top of the spire is missing, but that's what happens with a compact/phone.

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Meow - one word - "Fantastic". I absolutely love this shot, ticks every box for me.
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Some other photos were great but didn't quite make it. (o)(o) would have made it with the crocus shot which is really good, but the leaning church does my head in. "The Caffeine Kid"'s shot is lovely, but marred by the people in it. "Supermario" would have made it in with the first mist shot, but the clear shot in daylight ruins it by showing too much of the scaffolding (maybe a Triptych would have worked?).
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Re: Photo Comp March 2013 - "Snaps of Churches"

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First question - churches in the Christian sense or other religious places of worship as well (e.g. temples, shrines, etc)?
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Good question, and I meant to address that. Any church as long as it is religious in context.
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Thanks for the clarification - just trying to head off a schism before it starts... :) Heres one to start off with, view between the towers of Yorkminister cathedral from a couple of years back:

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Does it include churches no longer being used, such as monuments, and closed or abandoned churches?

Some old pictures.

One of my favorite churches with the façade in ceramic tile

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In the capital

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In the San Francisco Bay Area where even the churches are environmental and surrounded by greenery

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and a very old Templar Church, no longer functioning as such but a world heritage site

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Now i have a month to find something.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:Heres one to start off with, view between the towers of Yorkminister cathedral from a couple of years back:
Nice shot, but bear in mind the deviation from the usual rules this month to appease the 'snappers':
F-ZeroOne wrote:So, for this month only, here are three additional rules:

1.The photo must be taken with a camera with a non-detachable lens. This includes all phones, and compacts, but excludes Compact Systems Cameras, SLRs and the like.

2. NO processing is allowed. The shot must be exactly as taken i.e. a snapshot, and anything that shows the slightest hint of Instagram or anything else will be disqualified!

3. The entry MUST be taken within the month of the competition.
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Well if we're posting some (non-entries) from the archives...

Here are a few of mine, S.O.O.C. from the S100 or the iPhone.

Notre Dame..
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(Yes, that is as taken. The camera was in it's monochrome picture style)

And just for good measure, a gratuitous shot of Letty's lovely bottom..
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Sacre Couer (iPhone)
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Gloucester Cathedral, iPhone

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The monochrome pic is really stunning RiK
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RiK wrote:
F-ZeroOne wrote:Heres one to start off with, view between the towers of Yorkminister cathedral from a couple of years back:
Nice shot, but bear in mind the deviation from the usual rules this month to appease the 'snappers':
F-ZeroOne wrote:So, for this month only, here are three additional rules:

1.The photo must be taken with a camera with a non-detachable lens. This includes all phones, and compacts, but excludes Compact Systems Cameras, SLRs and the like.

2. NO processing is allowed. The shot must be exactly as taken i.e. a snapshot, and anything that shows the slightest hint of Instagram or anything else will be disqualified!

3. The entry MUST be taken within the month of the competition.
Whoops - sorry, I did read the rules but somehow either overlooked or forgot that one! :oops: It was not intended to be an entry, perhaps I should have made that clearer.
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That's a point - how much in camera/app processing is allowed?
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That's a good point, Stuart, but is also the reason that setting something like this up to be a level playing field is a real can-o'-worms!

Basically, the idea is to meet the idea of a "Snapshot" as requested, and that excludes deliberatre processing outside the camera/phone. If the camera has a scene mode then I don't see a problem using it. Whilst the rules may seem overly analytical, they are only there to try and meet the specific requests fairly.

In any case, the second shot in RiK's Notre Dame trio is, indeed, very nice, but for some reason I like the third one way, way better. It seems to draw me in somehow :D
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Zoot wrote:In any case, the second shot in RiK's Notre Dame trio is, indeed, very nice, but for some reason I like the third one way, way better. It seems to draw me in somehow :D
That'll be Letty's arse mate. It has that effect on people... (the rest ain't bad either ;-) )
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Zoot wrote:That's a good point, Stuart, but is also the reason that setting something like this up to be a level playing field is a real can-o'-worms!
Well I think your description was enough, we're down to compact or bridge cameras and phones. That's a level enough playing field for anyone.

Given that even basic compacts have picture styles etc. that should be fair game as that level of tech is open to anyone, and is down to pre-shot decisions, rather than post-processing. My little Canon compact has a number of picture styles, including quite fine grained control over contrast etc. It also allows me to frame and shoot with different crops i.e. 2:3, 4:5, 16:9 even square crop in camera.

Quite how that would apply to phones though is another kettle of fish. For example I have a number of phone apps that let me use film/lens simulations 'in camera', and by that I mean BEFORE you shoot (e.g. KitCam on iPhone), not post-processing. By the same logic they should be allowed but it's difficult to prove that's how a shot has been taken as I'm sure the whiners will still complain that's 'cheating' somehow..
Zoot wrote:Basically, the idea is to meet the idea of a "Snapshot" as requested, and that excludes deliberatre processing outside the camera/phone. If the camera has a scene mode then I don't see a problem using it. Whilst the rules may seem overly analytical, they are only there to try and meet the specific requests fairly.
Simple enough, as per your spec and the aforementioned point about picture styles etc. If you can do it before you shoot it's fair game as that's just knowing how to use your cameras features (RTFM!), but no post-processing on the computer etc.
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RiK wrote:Well if we're posting some (non-entries) from the archives...

Here are a few of mine, S.O.O.C. from the S100 or the iPhone.


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(Yes, that is as taken. The camera was in it's monochrome picture style)

I just love this one. Besides the angle, the sky, etc it gives me a feeling of timeliness.

Note: I tried to click on it but Flickr says it's private
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