Convince me to get a PS4 then, go on you know you want to ;)

[llamaprotector]

Never heard of Resogun, will have to check it out.

There's one for sale near me and only used a couple of times apparently so we'll see how much they want and take it from there but still even with a game (not the one I want) I'm not paying anywhere near list

[Flojomojo]

There's really no rush to get one now ... the PS3 is still kicking and all the free PS+ games are there. It's like a new car -- it's nicer in a dozen tiny ways (controller, downloads, responsiveness, interface, graphics) but unless you have some extra cash to throw down, you might be sorry if you talk yourself into it before you know why you want it.

[Baggypants]

Buy the PS4, The even numbered ones are better

[Flojomojo]

[llamaprotector]

We couldn't agree a price as he'd ripped the packaging too much when opening it, I'm saved

[Little stoned kiwi]

Just out of curiosity where do you guys keep your PCs? Tucked away in a spare room? Off to one side?

I like me gaming on a big living-room telly.

That's why the Steambox may be interesting. It will be able to stream games playing on a Windows PC over your network so the Steambox itself can be lightweight and unobtrusive (perhaps even stylish) in your living room.
But then, that still involves buying into Valve instead of buying into Sony or Microsoft as Steam is the platform rather than 'PC'.

[buddh4sack]

Flower is a beautiful, relaxing PS4 game; supposedly the control and gameplay is much improved over the ps3 version.

[TFO]

Flower is a beautiful, relaxing PS4 game; supposedly the control and gameplay is much improved over the ps3 version.

The light level is now stunning (and it was good before)

[Flojomojo]

I remembered Flower on PS3 as pretty smooth, but there was something about the motion that made me sick to my stomach so I never finished it.

The PS4 version seems to be double the framerate, nicely anti-aliased, and a more natural field of vision. No more jaggies, stutters, or motion sickness. I never even noticed the first two but I definitely noticed when going back to the PS3 version.

[guythp]

Buy the PS4, The even numbered ones are better

No they're not. I bought a ps2 a few months back and it's utter twunt.

Grow some bollocks and get a Dreamcast.

[Flojomojo]

Whoa. I just realized the ps2 came out almost FOURTEEN YEARS AGO. Were it human, that's plenty old enough to reproduce.

Perhaps it's not all that amazing to see mobile ports of ps2 and xbox games in that light. The gap is similar as that between the Atari VCS and the Sega CD.

[MattyP]

Whoa. I just realized the ps2 came out almost FOURTEEN YEARS AGO. Were it human, that's plenty old enough to reproduce.

Perhaps it's not all that amazing to see mobile ports of ps2 and xbox games in that light. The gap is similar as that between the Atari VCS and the Sega CD.

Crikey... makes me feel old now... in my twenties when that was released.... No wonder I'm getting to be a grouchy old moaner about gaming these days... LOL... Don't think the games have got much better in terms of gameplay since then... TBH. Just shinier. And easier maybe? Oh and all the stuff that was unlockable by completing games is now DLC.

Probably why I haven't really bought a PS4 or XBone at the moment. Feels like the same-old but just more expensive. Had a look at my favourite racing series Forza on the XBone at the weekend and just thought... No. After putting time into Forza 4 just felt like the same old. In fact it takes things away.. less cars and no 'Ring to have fun on.

Best experience I am having at the moment is on the PS Vita which actually feels like something new with all the inbuilt input systems and the way they are used in gaming. (Tearaway was great) - added bonus is that I can also play that anywhere /time so with limited gaming time I get I can quickly power on play a bit and leave and continue where I left off. So I'll probably end up staying with that and just finishing up on my last-gen games.

Anyway... personally I'd wait for a PS4. See how it goes and what gets released. If a must have title comes up go for it. My strategy anyway.

[Deckard]

They'll both be a hundred quid cheaper later in the year with some flagship games I reckon - TBH now I have a Vita it will probably be a PS4 for me

[MattyP]

They'll both be a hundred quid cheaper later in the year with some flagship games I reckon - TBH now I have a Vita it will probably be a PS4 for me

Me too I expect. Like what Sony are doing at the moment PS+ etc and mostly been playing their content...Which is a bit odd as I was a big 360 fan last gen. Enjoyed the Project Gotham series, Forza and all those lovely live arcade titles. They brought Radient Silvergun to the masses! All that focus on gaming seems to have gone this time round with MS (and to some degree since the release of Kinect on the 360 the change was noticeable) - also getting tired of the paywall that is the gold sub stopping me accessing things I get free on Sony boxes (internet browser / lovefilm etc) - these should be free to access without subbing to anything as they are paid services anyway. At least Sony give you plenty of content (especially if you have a vita too) with the plus sub. Although that is another reason why I will stay on PS3 for the time being too. Lots of PS+ games for PS3 waiting to be played and more arriving every month.

The other option for me at the moment is the PC and Steam for my "big TV" gaming. Have a reasonably specced PC that will pretty much play most things at 1080p at a reasonable frame rate so may just use this more and save the money. Also means I can play all my old steam games too - nice bonus I don't get with the new consoles (no way to play my current library on the new consoles). With the 360 controller attached to the PC feels like a HD console anyway.

[Xstreme]

I'm currently on the fence, torn between picking up a PS4 next month when I'm back in the city or holding out until Autumn then deciding between PS4 or a Steam Box. Nothing screaming 'must have!' as yet on the PS4. I'd like Resogun and some shiny hi-res Battlefield but thats about it for now.