Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[Whiteball]

I was under the impression (but haven't checked in more recent times) that not only was Valve back working on their own VR tech but they were also creating a VR API that if followed would give good access to 'all' VR solutions - or something along those lines.

[Misfit]

There's just this part of me that wants the best technical offering and would be a little gutted if Sony produce something nicer. In reality, it's much better to have something that works with negligible flaws and LOTS of content than a white elephant that wins on one front but has no serious content to offer on the other.

Let's be honest here. We'll probably buy both regardless if they both turn out to be good bits of kit...

[Misfit]

I was under the impression (but haven't checked in more recent times) that not only was Valve back working on their own VR tech but they were also creating a VR API that if followed would give good access to 'all' VR solutions - or something along those lines.

Apparently we're getting Steam boxes too soon....

Actually I think you are right, but can't say I've noticed much news on that front lately.

[Harlequin]

Oh, and an interesting side-note; I don't know if it's the same on the DK1, but on the DK2, there are little cut-outs in the foam below your eyes so you can see your hands in the real world. They don't distract from the experience, but negate the need to lift the headset away from your eyes when you're groping for the keyboard!

I am wondering if this reduces the nausea problem.

[gumboot]

Oh, and an interesting side-note; I don't know if it's the same on the DK1, but on the DK2, there are little cut-outs in the foam below your eyes so you can see your hands in the real world. They don't distract from the experience, but negate the need to lift the headset away from your eyes when you're groping for the keyboard!

I am wondering if this reduces the nausea problem.

Tape them up and see.

[gilesgoat]

Oh, and an interesting side-note; I don't know if it's the same on the DK1, but on the DK2, there are little cut-outs in the foam below your eyes so you can see your hands in the real world. They don't distract from the experience, but negate the need to lift the headset away from your eyes when you're groping for the keyboard!

I am wondering if this reduces the nausea problem.

I don't think they have any effect for that.

[Dvorak]

Why this angst that DK2 may disappoint?
Or that there may be other, better devices available soon.

Ten years from now there will be a generation of devices that will be a magnitude 'better' than everything we're now awaiting so impatiently (and, dear, I do wait impatiently for DK2...)
Bit like waiting for the C64 to be delivered finally, isn't it...?

Anyway, for me the Tuscany Demo for the DK1 was a new, a qualitative new experience.
Something I've never experienced before in my life.
Something that only really new cognitive experiences can offer you (like, dunno, my first 3D game, Star Raiders, or first time with 200 km/h on the autobahn, or learning to read Kurrent fluently).
And I'm determined to savour to the full each iteration of the development of this here. Just for the cognitive kicks.

[Dvorak]

Oh, and an interesting side-note; I don't know if it's the same on the DK1, but on the DK2, there are little cut-outs in the foam below your eyes so you can see your hands in the real world. They don't distract from the experience, but negate the need to lift the headset away from your eyes when you're groping for the keyboard!

I am wondering if this reduces the nausea problem.

I don't think they have any effect for that.

Nausea, nausea, nausea. Phh.

You guys just try to do something against your extreme histamine level first.
Maybe you want to reduce your daily intake of red wine, old Italian cheese, and cigarettes...

[Yak]

If a game is designed well even on current kit it is possible to avoid nausea. I'm doing so pretty successfully on a small scale with my Mino Rescue VR project, and on a larger scale Elite Dangerous I thought might give me problems, rolling and twisting in dogfights and spinning around in space and all, but I can play that as long as I like without any sickness at all. It's great even on my dk1.5 .

Important work is being done in developing VR into something everyone can use, and it's all out in the open, so we're seeing the intermediate steps before it's fully perfected. But even in the last year the advances being made are significant, and some of the upcoming stuff is going to be extraordinary.

Right I'm off into the 'verse, where's my headset...

[snaff]

If a game is designed well even on current kit it is possible to avoid nausea. I'm doing so pretty successfully on a small scale with my Mino Rescue VR project, and on a larger scale Elite Dangerous I thought might give me problems, rolling and twisting in dogfights and spinning around in space and all, but I can play that as long as I like without any sickness at all. It's great even on my dk1.5 .

If I was spinning around in space in real life I'd expect to be throwing up. There must be a distinction between sim nausea and other forms that those wanting complete realism may want to retain.

[Whiteball]

So if you order a DK2 they add 'Fees, Duties & Taxes' to the cost. Does that mean I wouldn't get hit with tax on import as they are pre-paying it from their end?

[Yak]

woohoo my DK2 is about to ship

wonder if I can get into a Lakon type 6 before it arrives...



dat view....

[Bod]

I just received an email from Occy asking me to submit my payment details again, as my order is ready to ship but they can't take payment !!!

I rang my bank & they said they blocked it as suspicious activity. FFS

It's authorised now, so hopefully I'll get a shipping confirmation shortly.

[Misfit]

So if you order a DK2 they add 'Fees, Duties & Taxes' to the cost. Does that mean I wouldn't get hit with tax on import as they are pre-paying it from their end?

I believe so. I think they distribute from within Europe, so we should be fine...

[Muttley]

I didn't order until June, so I've probably got a bit of a wait to go...